In a message dated 9/23/2001 12:15:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
> Subj:Re: CS>500 PPM > Date:9/23/2001 12:15:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Frank Key) > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A> > To: [email protected] > > > > > Roger wrote: > > > > Marshall; Look, I don't know if it's possible or not to make 500 PPM CS, > but > > if one were to use Ole Bob's HVAC Arc Method, the amount of particulate > at > > that concentration wouldn't be too high. If, for example, Bob's typical > > product is 98% ionic, that would leave only 10 PPM as particulate. That's > not > > too high. I know the remaining 490 PPM may precipitate as a carbonate or > as a > > hydroxide, but I wonder if that has even been demonstrated experimentally > > (Are you there Frank?). Might be interesting to do a test or two to find > out > > (1) if silver actually does precipitate, and (2) what is (are) the > > compound(s) that form. Roger > > There is a faily simple way to determine the ionic concentration that Bob's > equipment is capable of producing as follows: > > 1. Run the equipment on the smallest practical batch, say 1 or 2 liters, or > whatever is possible to run. > 2. Run the process for a long period of time, TBD, or until large flat > silver particles start to precipitate out of the solution. > 3. Let the solution cool down to room temperature and site for about a day. > 4. Stir briefly to cause any further precipitation to complete. > 5. Measure to the total silver content and the ionic content. > 6. The difference between the total and the ionic is the particles. > 7. The ionic content represents the maximum ionic concentration possible at > room temperature. > > Simple, enough, eh? > > frank key > Frank: My process is quite similar to Ole Bobs. So what I've observed during the production of HVAC CS should be relevant to your earlier suggestions. I run my process until the conductivity of the water gets so high that the combined ionized air resistance plus that of the water is too low for my power supply to continue operating at its 30 ma internal set point. So basically the product I get **already represents** the maximum total silver obtainable. However, the silver concentration is limited by conductivity constraints, not ionic silver precipitation. In fact, if I were to change the physical configuration of my setup, I don't see any reason why I couldn't continue producing CS. However, I'd need a longer tank which I don't have. Roger
