I sent a sample to Ole Bob that read 17PPM on my meter. His result for
that sample was 26.8PPM.  The NCDNR water lab result for a similar sample
was 45.5 PPM. [they required a minimum 8oz sample and averaged the results
over 3 tests...don't know the method but it's HUGE gummint lab that does
nothing but test water]
 The TE can be highly variable depending on water/room temperatures, water
quality and such. [saturation points drop with temperature?] No two people
in different places run a generator under the exact same conditions.
 If the rate of particle formation is high while in process, the total
silver content will increase as the conductivity does not increase at the
same rate.
 Further, PPM meter readings tend to drop a few points over night as a
stronger TE develops.[if it does] So, it depends on 'when' the reading is
taken as well.

 Don't get me wrong here, a meter is still useful to compare batches made
under the same conditions with the same generator, but everyones fudge
factor will be a bit different.
Ken


At 01:33 PM 12/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Ken,
>
>Where do you get the notion that PWT meters can be off as much as 60% when
>they measure ionic CS?  Most ionic CS is in the range of 80 to 90% ionic?
>They accurately measure the ionic portion or do you disagree they do NOT
>measure ionic CS accurately?  Ours certainly do and as I said earlier, we
>use three of them to see if there is any difference in readings.  There
>isn't........
>
>Trem
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ode Coyote" <coy...@alltel.net>
>To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 7:34 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Re: argyria
>
>
>> No, there is no instrument that measures PPM of "colloidal" silver that
>> you can afford [unless you happen to have a few grand just lying around].
>>  PPM meters only measure "Ionic" content.  This is not useless, but it's
>> not accurate either. It can be off by as much as 60%.
>>  Along with eyeballing the Tyndal Effect and using such a meter, the best
>> you can do is get a 'feel' for the potency...a good guess.
>>  But a 'feel' is good enough and better than nothing. It's not going to be
>> exact nor does it need to be.
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> At 10:32 PM 12/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Is there an instrument that measures the ppm? If so, who sells it, and
>how
>> >much is the cost?
>> >Leo
>> >
>> >Reid Harvey wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hilary,
>> >> Sorry, but I've been out of the country the past week, so I'm not sure
>> >> how this question has been addressed.  But it seems to me that 20 to 30
>> >> ppm is awfully low, for the maker to see the necessity of adding silver
>> >> protein.  And I think the fact is that whomever makes the more
>> >> concentrated CS, which includes the protein, may see the need for this
>> >> additional material because it will help maintain stability of the CS
>> >> while in storage.  Otherwise it is possible to make much higher
>> >> concentrations, perhaps even 500 to 1000 ppm, without the protein
>> >> stabilizer. For example, if one can keep the concentrated CS away from
>> >> light and electromagnetic fields the stabilizer should not be needed.
>> >> Reid
>> >>
>> >> Ole Bob said:
>> >> Hi Hilary,
>> >>
>> >> Evidently you are new to the list as evidenced by the fact that you
>> >> missed the key
>> >> word used in the article
>> >> and that was "silver protein." Stay away from any CS labeled more that
>> >> 20 or 30 ppm
>> >> as they probably have a
>> >> silver compound in them, and that is where the problem lies.
>> >>
>> >> Electro colloid as poeple on this list make will not cause argyria!!
>You
>> >> would drown
>> >> in it first.
>> >>
>> >> "Ole Bob"
>> >>
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