Russ,

In this case it is the ionic form that is toxic. The ionic gold needs
to be reduced to metallic gold before ingestion.

Has any one thought of LVDC or LVAC arcing under water ...why does it
need to be HV?

Ivan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Rosser [mailto:russros...@rovin.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2002 4:30 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>colloidal gold.
>
>
> Yes, salts can be toxic; however, a theory I've had about other
ionic
> compounds may apply here:  If gold chloride naturally
> dissolves into an
> ionic solution in water, then the chloride might be separated
> out by means
> of a "water ionizer."
>
> In 2000, the CS list had a thread about dietary minerals
> wherein Duncan
> initiated a sereis of posts titled, "It's the ionic form that
> really works."
> Simultaneously, a discussion was underway regarding a good calcium
> supplement.  While various (expensive) brands were mentioned,
> I got the idea
> of buying CHEAP (50 lb. bags of) calcium & magnesium
> chloride, dissolving
> them in water and running that through a polarizer to achieve
> an aqueous
> solution of pure Ca+ and Mg+ (and OH-).
>
> Now those machines can be outrageously expensive, so I began
> musing over how
> I might build one.  The platinum coated electrodes, which
> catalytically
> protect the (usually titanium) substrate against acidic
> corrosion, are the
> prime expense, so I was investigating alternatives (carbon
> rods, iridium
> compounds, conductive polymers) when more mundane concerns took
> precedence...but it still might be worth pursuing and pertinent to
CG.
> Thoughts?
>
> --Russ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marshall Dudley <mdud...@execonn.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>colloidal gold.
>
>
> > I want to warn everyone that gold salts are reported to be
> quite toxic I
> > believe.  So be careful that you have NO salts left.
> >
> > (I have not verified this information, it came from a
> doctor discussing
> gold
> > shots for people who have arthritis)
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Kevin Nolan wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks again Ivan. Any thoughts on the best reagents to
> precipitate gold
> as
> > > colloid, concentrations to use etc? Looks like we're homing in
on
> something
> > > here - possibly that thing at the end of the rainbow!
> > >
> > > regards, Kevin Nolan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "I Anderson" <i...@win.co.nz>
> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CS>colloidal gold.
> > >
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Yes quite cost effective. 1g of gold chloride will make
> 49L of 10ppm
> > > > colloidal gold.
> > > >
> > > > In Australia you can obtain supplies here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.proscitech.com.au/
> > > >
> > > > ProSciTech
> > > > PO Box 111
> > > > Thuringowa Qld 4817
> > > > Australia
> > > >
> > > > Street Address:
> > > > 37 Framara Dr, Kelso, 4815
> > > >
> > > > C106 Gold Chloride AU$58.00 1g 10% discount for 10 x 1g
> > > >
> > > > GOLD CHLORIDE hydrate
> > > > H(AuCl4) :H2O. F.W. 229.79
> > > > Chloroauric acid; hydrogen tetrachloroaurate; gold
> trichloride, acid.
> > > > Assay 99.9985%. Gold content 49%+.
> > > > Used in histology for staining of nerves. This highly
> purified gold
> > > > compound may be used for the preparation of colloidal gold
sols.
> > > > Golden-yellow to reddish, highly hygroscopic, crystals.
> Deteriorates
> > > > readily in UV light, is caustic on skin, dissolves well
> in water and
> > > > alcohol. M.S.D.S
> > > > C106 Gold Chloride, 1g (ampoule) Price
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 21 January 2002 2:50 a.m.
> > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: CS>colloidal gold.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Ivan. So where does one purchase gold chloride, and
> > > > > is it economic
> > > > > compared with electrolytically making from gold wire
> or similar?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards, Kevin Nolan
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "I Anderson" <i...@win.co.nz>
> > > > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: CS>colloidal gold.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes Kevin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But then why go to the trouble of electrically
> generating ionic
> > > > gold
> > > > > > when one can purchase soluble gold chloride.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chemical reduction of gold chloride by various compounds
> > > > > (tannic acid,
> > > > > > sodium citrate, etc.) as you mention is the traditional
way
> > > > > of making
> > > > > > commercial and batch quantities of CG, as used in large
> > > > > amounts by the
> > > > > > bio-chemistry industry. With the ability to
> regulate a uniform
> > > > > > particle size from about 6nm +, it would seem to be
> the way to go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Ivan.
> > > >
> > > >
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