Dear Tom:

Evidently you weren't paying attention. Perhaps you should reread my post 
again and again until you understand it. You seem to be saying that I claimed 
CS doesn't work - I don't see that anywhere in my post.

You go on to say that I am "bashing people," "trying so hard it seems to 
throw a wrench into the works" and "discrediting CS and the people that use 
it." Once again, reread the post instead of trying to read things into the 
post.

You also made reference to a web site that has nothing to do with the 
discussion and you went on to ramble about "Bats, Mosquitoes and Dollars." 
I'm not sure where you were going with that one, but if you would like to 
take it up on the OT list I would be happy to discuss it further.

To refresh your memory, we were discussing the claim that CS kills 600+ 
pathogens. I said "The statement is probably true, but I've never seen 
references to the actual lab tests." 

Perhaps with your excellent research skills, you can find this study and post 
it to the list. I think we would all like to put this CS urban legend to bed 
once and for all. Or, If you just want to rant and rave some more about CS, 
there is a gal named Rosemary Jacobs and a web site called quackwatch that 
you can be paranoid about. Just don't try and twist my words around.

Andy

From: Tom 
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:02:36 

Here is an article on Utopia Silvers 
site from a 
1914 Scientific American, while this isn't about all the 650+ pathogens 
it 
touches on the "scientific" AND "documented" proof that it does 
work there 
is documented proof all over if you look. Also if you want to find the 
pathogens 
that it is effective on go out and buy some of the books the some of 
these sites 
say their article refrences, back about the time colloidal silver was 
abandoned 
(1930s) here in the US in favor of synthesized antibiotics 
research 
was being done in the UK on a broad scale of colloidal metals most of 
these 
books are used as reference for these articles which is 
mainly edited 
information from the same article. There is plenty of 
proof out 
there if you decide to look. The UCLA BYU and the University of Noth 
Texas 
studies. I haven't been using CS for long but what I have used it on 
works great 
as with MSM as well. I don't know if you use CS and I don't care but it 
bothers 
me when I see someone who comes into this list making claims that it 
doesn't 
work when they themselves have not verified squat wants to know what 
research 
what pathogens this that and the other. If you look you will find. When 
I first 
started using CS I believe I was questioned about the same thing by you 
as a 
matter of fact after I made a mention how good I felt taking CS, and in 
all 
honesty I really didn't have answer well now I do, instead of bashing 
people 
about it, go and look for yourself, you trying so hard it seems to throw 
a 
wrench into the works, do some research yourself, and if you say you 
can't find 
anything you are either not looking or just discrediting CS and the 
people that 
use it.
 
My advice to everyone is to use the 
internet, to 
search these claims, use their bibliographies and order some of these 
book, you 
can get them on amazon ,barnes and noble and other online book sites, 
sometimes 
you can even get first editions which are a little expensive but nice to 
have. 
For instance you can still get this book which our government would like 
people 
not to know about. Bats, 
Mosquitoes and 
Dollars http://search.ba
rnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=Bats%2C+Mosquitoes+and+Doll
ars&userid=2TX8DV7US7 it explains some diseases and how insects are the 
carriers and 
this includes smallpox and contagious it really isn't. When I find this 
stuff it 
amazes me that our government and health system would rather poison us 
with 
unproven vaccines than to admit cleanliness and sanitation are the 
reason 
smallpox has been eradicated. What bothers me even more is that for 
the 
most part we as a people actually believe the crap that they tell 
us.
 

  From: 
  ascottsil...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 
12:54 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS doesn't 
work 
  ...
  

  Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS 
kills over 
  600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by 
unscrupulous CS 
  manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. 
The 
  statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the 
actual lab 
  tests.

It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see 
statements 
  like "KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS" on someone's web site, 
assume they 
  are selling sewer water. If they lie about their claims, they are 
probably 
  lying about their product. Ask the people who put this crap on their 
web page 
  things like:

Who made this study?
When?
Where?
Where is it published?
What strength of CS was used?
What specific pathogens?
Was a control group used?

If someone really spent the time and money to 
  obtain, grow and kill 600 cultures of different pathogens with CS 
wouldn't you 
  think that it would be published in a scientific journal?

Best 
  wishes,
Andy (^_^)

From: Jay Ice 
Pretty bold 
statement....but I 
  can understand where your comeing from. No CS
is not a cureall and 
neither 
  is a medication. There is no all-porpose cure,
but what medication 
do you 
  know that CAN kill over 600 different
bacteria/virus and 
  fungus?