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Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:17:19
> I don't see how doing the salt test can display any quantitive
> results unless the exact amount of salt were known and the exact
> amount of precipitate.
Try it. Excess salt is invisible, so all you need is enough to
ensure every silver ion is captured. Three shakes is usually enough
for about 1 inch of cs. More may be needed for high concentration or
greater quantity.
The test merely confirms that silver ions are present, and it gives
a rough guide of the strength.
If you compare dw made at 1.4 mA/sq.in. with dw made at 87
uA/sq.in., there is a dramatic difference with the same number of
Coulombs transferred.
> It might be a useful addition to looking at the TE with a laser,
> but like looking at TE, there's no way to really communicate what
> "heavy" or "Lite" "Strong/weak" is in a meaningful manner. Just
> how milky is very milky?
You have to try it and see. There are many ways to describe it.
First is how does it take for the dispersion to appear. A weak cs
will take five minutes or more. The dispersion is pale blue and you
have to get the light just the right way to see it.
As the cs gets stronger, the dispersion appears much faster. At 20
ppm calculated, the response is immediate, and you can see white
clouds and wisps like fog growing up from the bottom of the glass.
After mixing, the dispersion is still transparent and you can see
objects behind the glass.
At 50 ppm calculated, the dispersion is like a miniature explosion
as soon as the first salt crystal hits the water. The dispersion is
like skim milk. It is difficult to see objects behind the glass.
> Opinion based on observation is always personal and relative.
> Interpretation will have to be broad based. Sometimes when two
> people are looking at the very same item in the same room in the
> same light from the same angle, even then they argue.
Sometimes, two labs give different results on the same tests. To
quote from someone's previous post:
"Welcome to the wonderful world of infallable science where no two
labs can agree on anything and no two processes even come close."
"A PWT only reads ions for sure...maybe correctly and maybe not.
Depends on what lab results you compare the readings to."
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Yes, personal observation is fallible when items are very similar.
But there is no question about the ability to tell the difference
between cs made at 1.4 mA/sq.in. and the same number of Coulombs
transferred at 87 uA/sq.in.
It's like the difference between dropping a tennis ball and a
bowling ball on your foot. That is a personal observation, but I
think everyone can identify which one they would prefer.
> Faradays calculations could give a theoretical maximum PPM. I
> would agree that if a lab test went over that max, something could
> be amiss.
> There are many things that could account for a result under the
> calculated PPM.
> Not everything is visible and available to the eyeball.
Yes, I agree completely. Any deposit of black residue is a sign
particles are being made. This reduces the amount of ions available.
But as you point out, not everything is visible. I have tried three
different methods of stirring, and had poor results with each one.
They seemed to give the same results in the salt test, but had
little effect on the cavities or shingles.
One sample even formed a small shiny flake of silver in the bottom
of the glass when it was placed in the refrigerator. I have never
seen this before - I used to store my cs in the fridge.
Since stirring seemed to reduce the effectiveness of the cs, and it
gave such odd results, I have abandoned stirring.
BTW - I checked to see if the 87 uA/sq.in. cs was stable in the
fridge.
Yes, it is perfectly stable.
> Ode
Best Regards,
Mike Monett
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