Malcolm Stebbins wrote:

>  Oh Boy!! that's going to be quite a hit!  The coil gets 12 volts from
> the ignition system, and generates perhaps 200 + volts on "break" due
> to inductive kickback or field collapse; what's going to happen when
> it gets 300 + volts and then the xenon tube extinguishes and "break"
> comes for that field?  I realize the current is diminishing during the
> flash,  guess I'll have to try it to find out - but I think I'll try
> it on the spider first<g>.
> Take care, Malcolm
>

That is incorrect. The spark coil is typically about a 50 or 100 to 1
transformer.  When used in an old automobile, the points close, and a
current builds up in the leakage inductance of the coil. This typically
generates some voltage on the secondary, but not enough to cause a
spark.  Then when the points open the field collapses with a time
constant set by the leakage inductance, and the small capacitor that is
across the points.  The result is that there is a voltage spike on the
primary of the coil or about 1,000 volts, which show up at the secondary
as a 50,000 to 100,000 volts.

If you ever put a CD ignition on an old car you would know that they use
a circuit very much like the one for the pulser, a high voltage
controlled by an scr.

Marshall

>
> At 10:56 AM 10/26/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>> BTW, anyone who has made a home made pulsar can easily make it to be
>> a shocker as well. Instead of connecting the magnetic coil wound on
>> a VHS spool to the unit, connect the primary of an old automobile
>> spark coil to it.  Easy, and convenient.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> > I have been told that you cannot use new automobiles to shock for
>> > venom. It will kill you.  Maybe older vehicles were OK.  We have
>> > used the spark plug wire from a 2 cylinder motor.  We hold a metal
>> > rod (with heavy welder's gloves) stuck into the spark plug cover.
>> > We stand on a few layers of corrugated boxes flattened out to keep
>> > from being grounded?  With the motor running (a welder)  I hold the
>> > rod, and my husband  gets just close enough to the rod to have it
>> > arc, or have a little electrical bolt strike his skin.  We shocked
>> > each bite, or eruption, about 10 or 15 times around them and also
>> > in the middle of them.  The man who showed us how to do this used a
>> > 2 cylinder motorcycle to shock his wife's bite with great success.
>> > My husband has waited 2 weeks to shock his.  His original bite had
>> > already cleared up.  I used CS on it, but he had several eruptions
>> > after that.  We have been told that he should have stayed down, and
>> > not been as active as he was (he played basketball several times).
>> > Have been told that it caused the poison to circulate to other
>> > sites.  He is seeing a Chiropractor who is using acupuncture, Metal
>> > cleanse, and UV light.  She cautioned against too much CS ingestion
>> > saying it can accumulate in body if not cleansed.  I was having my
>> > husband drink about 8-16 oz a day before we started to see her.
>> > She sent him to a Dr. to get some antibiotics.  The Dr. gave him a
>> > shot of Rocephin and a prescription for Keflex. He said the
>> > eruptions looked like Staph. The  eruptions seem to slowly be
>> > getting better.  He has been seeing the Chiropractor for 5 days,
>> > twice a day.  We have shocked the eruptions twice.  We haven't told
>> > the chiropractor, though.  He hasn't had any new eruptions in 5
>> > days.  Still treating 3.  They are still painful.  Thanks for the
>> > responses.  I gave my chiropractor the article on using  nitro
>> > patches.  She hasn't commented, yet.  The guy who showed us how to
>> > use the shock told me that I should have used my CS generator to
>> > shock it as soon as the  first bite started erupting.  He said to
>> > wet the area and shock it all the way around it.  I will probably
>> > try that if I get stung or bitten.  I have a homemade CS generator
>> > made with a 19v adapter.
>> >
>> > BECKY
>>
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