Dear Mike: Thank you, thank you, thank you, for providing the link to the source of the "Urban Legend" about frequencies of the human body, essential oils, and herbs.
What a scam, taking a junky cheap digital frequency counter that sell new for $204.75 and packaging that with bull shit and selling it for $2800.00! The sad part is that many of my friends and other well meaning individuals like Christine are perpetuating this scam not knowing that they have been conned. It is interesting that the quote "the meter is being used at Johns Hopkins University" is denied by Bruce Tainio in the frequently asked questions section. Christine made a statement that she is not a techie. Well, Bruce Tainio is not a techie either. He is a biologist who seems to have no clue about the operation of electronic instruments. The way he uses the frequency counter is as a random number generator, picking up all sorts of interference. The only way this test could be run would be in a screen room. I have worked in screen rooms where all the interference has been eliminated and have never measured a signal coming from the human body. A funny situation may have developed at Young Living Essential Oils. The reason I was not able to get the frequency test equipment used to test their essential oils might be because they discovered that they had been scammed and are now locked into the frequency scam and cannot back out. Funny if that is the case. How could they extricate themselves without looking like fools. Again, thank you for the links to the Bruce Tainio web site. This has bothered me for years and suspected that it was a scam. I wonder whether Bruce is knowingly pulling a fast one or whether he simply does not understand what he is doing. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Monett" <5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: SO>Frequency and the meaning of words. > Re: CS>Re: SO>Frequency and the meaning of words. > From: Jim Meissner > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:31:06 > > > I am an engineer, but I also know how to use the pendulum, > > divining rod, L-rods, radionics machines, etc, so do not discount > > my "awareness". > > > I have read all the Young Essential Oil literature. I have several > > friends who are dealers and they have tried to get the information > > of how the frequencies of the Young essential oils are measured. > > So far this information has not been made available. I SMELL A > > SCAM! > > Hi Jim, > > I also smell a scam. A very expensive one. From Bruce Tainio's web > site, > > "The BT3 Frequency Monitoring System sells for $2,800.00 plus > shipping, and comes with a sturdy carrying case and instructions." > > http://www.tainio.com/ir/frqmonitor/index.htm > > There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these > frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum > analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and > can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the > human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil. > > Here is a page with a picture of my HP 8568: > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?H2EA35C09 > > The frequency counter used in the BT3 is a cheap Tenmec. The bid > prices for used units start at $0.99 on Ebay. I have a Radio Shack > unit that is very similar except it doesn't measure period. > > The main ic in the counter is simply a high-gain amplifier driving a > limiter. The output of the limiter goes to a standard frequency > counter circuit. > > When there is no input signal, the counter reads approximately 50 to > 65 MHz. It is simply counting the random zero crossings of the input > noise after the amplifier. The frequency is not stable and responds > to stray capacity effects as you place you hand near the counter. > > As mentioned in the description, the unit is extremely sensitive to > radio interference from monitors, cpus, local transmitters, etc: > > "What makes this frequency meter unique is it's extremely > sensitive sensor. Because of it's high sensitivity, background > interference will usually have to be taken into account. It does > take some practice and patience at first. It is easier to use if > you find a place in your home, laboratory or office that has as > little electromagnetic interference as possible, then always use > your meter in that area if you can. The meter may not give you a > zero reading to start with; but a room with minimal interference > from radios, computers, etc. is better because you can establish a > base line to work with." > > He discusses this further in "Instructions for the BT3 Frequency > Monitoring System": > > "Unless you find yourself on a deserted Pacific island, the signal > you intend to measure is not the only one reaching the counter's > sensor. Once the sensor is attached to the counter, every signal > besides the one of interest becomes a source of interference and > the second sensitivity limitation. The level of these incidental > signals can be quite large, in fact, and usually is the limiting > factor in bio-frequency measurement." > > "Local AM, FM, and TV transmitters broadcast with hundreds of > kilowatts and yield an RF background that obscures all > measurements. Again, since the desired signal must exceed all > others by 10-15dB, this difference in level can only be achieved > by getting the counter much closer to the desired source. Thus, > touching the Bio-sensor on the spot or object to be read, will > increase the level performance of the system." > > There is no description of how the bio-sensor operates. However, > there are no signals generated by the body, so any measurements are > basically random circuit noise or perhaps local interference. The > readings are meaningless. > > Here is a description of this effect in a similar counter: > > "It is quite normal for the SAB6456A prescaler device to oscillate > lightly at about 60 - 70 MHz when there is no input signal. This > effect is described in the Philips data sheet. It is easy to tell > when this is happening, because the reading will not be stable. As > soon as a good signal is received, the oscillation stops." > > http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/micro/CNTR/Prescaler.htm > > However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as Tainio > claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam. > > There are indications of additional scams on his web pages. He sells > a Concerto EMF Protector to protect against negative effects of > Electromagnetic Fields (EMF's) from computers, fax machines and > copiers. > > http://www.tainio.com/ir/concerto/index.htm > > This amazing machine also makes Yamaha player piano produce "deeper > quality sound, crisper and cleaner." And he uses Kirlian photography > to claim "positive body energy changes". > > http://www.tainio.com/ir/concerto/graph.htm > > Unfortunately, Kirlian photography has been thoroughly discredited > as a measurement tool. I posted links to the analysis a year ago or > so. > > There is no way a machine like this could work. The only way to > shield against EMF is a completely enclosed shielded room. These are > available commercially and run hundreds of thousands of dollars for > a good one. > > This machine is also a scam. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >
