In the book The Body Electric there is a paragraph that leads with the following:
"Dispassionate Philosopher inquiring into nature from the sheer love of knowledge, single minded Alchemist puttering about a secluded basement in search of elixirs to benefit all humanity - these ideals no longer fit most Scientists......" And I would say minus the adjective "dispassionate" the remaining quote seems to fit the many Scientists on this list who still fit the description.....who have gone the extra mile to help people regardless of whether their generators are purchased from a vendor or assembled from Radio Shack parts and fish bubblers. Matter of fact, many of the vendors are themselves instrumental in the home brewers success. There is a quote from Max Planck to wit: "An important scientific innovation rarely makes itw way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is the its opponents gradually die out and that the growing generation is familiarized with the idea from the beginning. " Best regards, Ode Coyote <odecoy...@alltel.net> wrote: At 08:19 AM 5/8/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Well, I see that vendors are on the defensive. Unnecessarily. Those >that make CS with "hand lathed ,consistent DC current, uniform machines >capable of predetermined PMMs still have margins of error.. ## Of course...just not HUGE undeterminable margins of error. They do, after all, work like primitive meters and even good meters are far from perfect. To put things in historical perspective, Do-it-yourselfers now have the benefit of literally years of trial and error done by people who could see that something needed improvement but there was absolutely no knowledge available as to where to start. Only a few years ago, there was no mention of current anywhere. There was no network to consult. Nothing. Everyone was using batteries and salt and had no idea there might be something wrong about that. NOW, people can buy a decent almost foolproof generator for $200 or less vs the $150 to $400 for *nothing-in-a-shoddy-black-box* that was the only thing available back in the late 80s and early 90s. [When $150 was real money...like a whole weeks 'good' pay.] I actually have a generator that sold for $150 in the early 80s that makes a pint of black and brown emulsified multi layered sludge in less than 4 minutes.....just before it overheats and catches fire ...according to the warnings in the instructions. [nope, that ain't "it"] It was given to me by my third customer who discovered how *disgustingly* bad it really was after getting an early version generator that still had a ways to go. [but was miles beyond that pricey P.O.S. at exactly half the cost.] Personally, I had no thought of selling a CS generator till long after I made one I liked for myself. It took about a day to figure out that I didn't like what was out there. [Oh look!, I made mud... this time!] ..nope, that ain't it...[ being a forgetful fool, I wanted something more fool proof that I couldn't forget.] It wasn't even a motive to do the work. It was sheer curiosity at play and enough experience with seat of the pants electroplating to know that current plays a role... of some sort...to avoid making drain filler. I don't know what Trems motives were, but we both did about the same thing in the end starting at about the same time. >Regardless of what machine is used or whether it is 3 nines or a >transformer my comments regarding the making of GOOD CS are still applicable. ## Sure..and some idea as to what good is and how...now. Once not very long ago, pink CS was thought by some to be desirable and the very best was a bright deep yellow *with* detailed instructions on how to make it that way along with the erroneous idea that color was an indicator of [3-5] PPM. Colorless and highish PPM didn't fit into the same dictionary. No color...no silver. Most people still think they need to keep their CS away from light and many many vendors still send sea salt with their generators. Somebody paid a few labs. Some built their own labs. [Ole Bob] Then...info sharing happened, many myths were busted and "clues" appeared so 3 nines 'can' make good CS reasonably consistently. Some had their own labs already [American Biotech for one] but didn't share anything but BS. Ya'll can thank Mike the clue distributor. I know I've found more than quite a few here. Uh, Thanks Mike. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann _______________________________ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
