When sitting in a lawn chair in the front yard, near a military base.........they do.
Understandable. It is, and remains, an OT subject, even for the Govt. noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sorry Carol- but a 2000 feet these planes would scare the hell out of you. They look like 10,-15,000 feet if it is a standard lens. Marshall can probably produce a chart with temperatures at various altitudes. Lets go to off topic, please. > > From: Carol Ann > Date: 2006/05/30 Tue PM 12:32:09 EDT > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Morgellon Type Illness > > Marshall, no observational error on your part. They are NOT flying at 40k. > I'd say very often between 2 and 4. > Those website pictures typify what I've seen in my travels and display every > possible spray pattern configuration. > > Marshall Dudley wrote: But these planes were closer to 2,000 feet, I could > see the planes easily, and > the engines (which is not where the spray was coming from). With 2,000 feet > the > decent rate would be about 1/5 mph, or about the rate one would expect from an > aerosol mist. There are no high speed winds on a calm day below 2,000 feet, > and > what little wind there was made little difference because the checkerboard > pattern that day was dozens of miles across. No there was no observational > error, there were 3 of us, we all saw the same thing, and all three got > burning > skin that required us to speed home and take showers. I remember it well. I > called the weather on the way home and verified that the humidity was below > 50% > despite the somewhat heavy fog that descended on us. > > Marshall > > Jim Holmes wrote: > > > 40,000 feet divided by 30 minutes = a descent rate of 1333 ft/minute. That > > is 4 miles per hour. Spray some WD 40, preferably backlit, and observe > > the rate at which the smallest particles fall. > > > > Note also, there are winds, often of speeds of 50 to 100 hours at different > > layers in the atmosphere, that can influence where the mist falls, in > > unpredictable ways. > > > > I think you are making some sort of observational error. > > > > I do agree that the low level turn and crisscross activity is the true > > chemtrail spraying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:22 AM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Morgellon Type Illness > > > > Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > > Irresponsible fuel dumping is sometimes practiced by airplanes and that > > > could cause health problems, but that's not a "chemtrail" as presented on > > > chemtrail websites. > > > Aerial spraying of pesticides and herbicides is a fact, but that's not a > > > "chemtrail" as presented in evidence on chemtrail websites. > > > > > > Got dumped on and now has MS is not a valid cause and effect relationship. > > > [That's a remote possibility, not a fact] > > > She could just as well have eaten mad cow brains five years earlier, > > then > > > got dumped on with something that had no affect whatsoever.. > > > > > > Facts of logic: A "chemtrail" seen at 40k ft can't possibly hit you. > > > A chemtrail that can hit you will never be seen as a chemtrail. At > > best, > > > it will look like fog...if you can see anything at all. > > > > Sorry, it is true that a contrail cannot hit you from 40,000 feet, but a > > chemtrail certainly can, since most of them are oil based, instead of water. > > I > > have been hit by them before, it takes about 1/2 hour to reach ground level, > > and you can watch them drop the whole way. When they reach ground level, it > > becomes foggy, although the relative humidity reads under 50%. I have seen > > this more than once. I have literally watched the planes fly criss cross, > > that > > is for almost an hour you have two planes, one flying nN/S and the other E/W > > crisscrossing the sky for an hour, and when they get to the edge of the > > city, > > they make a 180 degree turn, and go back again. This continues until either > > they run out of spray, or the checkerboard is finished. Also almost always > > they > > will put down a BIG X across the middle of the city before starting. I have > > seen them fly low enough that you can see the spray coming out of nossles > > instead of from the engines or wing tips like a normal contrail will do. I > > have > > seen a nossle get plugged up so that a plane that was putting down 4 lines > > of > > trails, suddenly only puts down 3 lines, yet has 2 or 4 engines. I have had > > my > > skin burn when exposed to the spray. I have seen these planes fly right > > next > > to a normal airline, and the normal airline puts down a thin con trail that > > evaporates in a few seconds, and the other planes put down big thick spray, > > that spreads out, and over time completely fills the sky with what appears > > to > > be feathery clouds, that is you are patient enough, and if there is no wind, > > will settle to ground level producing a fog in low humidity. When they > > first > > started I checked with the local doctor on his patient load, and every time > > they would spray, he would be overwhelmed with patients for the next few > > days. > > > > It does not require reading web sites to get evidence, it only takes some > > personal observations. I took pictures of 3 military planes putting down > > chemtrails and a commercial jet crossing their path, and you can easily see > > the > > normal short contrail of the commercial jet, and the big fat never > > dissipating > > trails of the military planes, which eventually became what appeared to be > > clouds. http://silver-lightning.com/trails2/ > > > > Marshall > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Carol Ann > > _______________________________________ > > Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml > > _______________________________ > God is what you can find in anything you look at if you look long enough. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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