Ben: MT:To be clear: I'm saying - no society and culture, no individual intelligence. The individual is part of a complex - & in the human case - VAST social web. (How ironic, Ben, that you could be asserting your position while totally embedded in the greatest social web ever - the Net. Your whole work depends on the Web and speaks to it). To me that's like saying "How ironic that you can assert the possibility of rolling on wheels, when you yourself walk with legs." Human intelligence is tied to society and culture. Not all intelligence must be.
Can't resist a comeback. The wheels don't get to roll, if the legs don't get in the car. (Ditto the computer doesn't calculate if the hand doesn't switch it on). The one depends on the other & vice versa. The individual depends on the society, & vice versa. But it's easy intellectually to fail to see the vital connection. Try & find a single example of any form of intelligence that has ever existed in splendid individual isolation. That is so wrong an idea - like perpetual motion - & so fundamental to the question of superAGI's. (It's also a fascinating philosophical issue). ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=58999594-6509b3