Oh well, my apologies!  But my science/ technology distinction stands  if 
tentatively  - not because I want to score points but because it's important in 
itself. Your conference was about the technology of collective intelligence. I 
am and was aware that there has been a good deal of AI work here. But a science 
of collective or social intelligence is a very different though related ball 
game. It probably should be "social intelligence" - Surowiecki insists that the 
wisdom of crowds depends to a great extent upon the individuals being 
decentralised and not part of a collective, hierarchical organization.

P.S. I think your Wiki ref was interesting in underlining what is now a general 
principle: "Try and think of something new, and it's almost bound to be in 
Wikipedia already." (But that doesn't mean it's been done properly or fully).

  Ben:Mike, you've got me all wrong, in this particular regard!!

  My practical plan for creating AGI does in fact involve creating a society of 
AGI's, living in online virtual worlds like Second Life and Metaplace ... 

  (Although, these AGI's will be able to share thoughts with each other, in a 
kind of collective memory and learning substrate, which is something that 
humans can't do ... so they'll really be what I've called a Mindplex rather 
than a society 

  http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsyc/2003/mindplex.htm
  )

  However, in principle, I do not agree with you that a society of AGI's is 
necessary for creating AGI's.  Even though my practical plan is in fact to 
create a society of AGI's... 

  Also, collective intelligence has been under study for decades in the systems 
theory world.  In 2001 Francis Heylighen and I ran a conference in Brussels 
called Global Brain 0, which was focused on the notion of an emerging, 
increasingly cohesive global collective intelligence.  I made a blog post on a 
related theme a couple days ago... 

  http://www.singinst.org/blog/2007/10/29/on-becoming-a-neuron/

  -- Ben G



  On Oct 30, 2007 5:00 PM, Mike Tintner < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    There is a certain irony, considering how much you guys have agonized 
(perfectly reasonably) about open-sourcing or "collectivising" the building of 
an AGI, that you should instantly dismiss the "collectivising" or distributing 
of the AGI itself (or themselves).  (That Wisdom of Crowds book was only last 
year - I really think this is all still fairly virgin territory).

        Well put. (BTW as perspective here, I should point out that what I've 
raised 
        calls for a whole new branch/dimension of social psychology - the study 
of
        collective intelligence. 

      Not new to everyone ;-)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_intelligence

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