Benjamin Goertzel wrote:


Try & find a single example of any form of intelligence that has
    ever existed in splendid individual isolation. That is so wrong an
    idea - like perpetual motion - & so fundamental to the question of
    superAGI's. (It's also a fascinating philosophical issue).


Oh, I see ... super-AGI's have never existed therefore they never will exist. QED ;-p

Perpetual motion seems to be impossible according to the "laws of physics", which are our best-so-far abstractions from our observations of the physical world.

Super-AGI outside a sociocultural framework is certainly not ruled out by any body of knowledge on which there is comparable consensus, or for which there is comparable evidence!!

ben g

I think you're missing his (possibly valid) point. 1) Nobody starts as a clean slate. 2) A search for a solution works better if you start from a multitude of separate initial positions.

I'm not sure that "Therefore we need a bunch of AGIs rather than one" is a valid conclusion, but it *is* a defensible one. I have a suspicion that a part of the reason for the success of humans as problem solvers is that not only do we start from a large number of initial positions, but also we tend to have differing goals, so when one is blocked, another may not be. But I see no reason why, intrinsically, the same characteristics couldn't be given to a single AGI...though the variation in goals might be difficult.

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