On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Eric B. Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben:
> I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that AGI today in 2008 is "in the air"
> again after 50 years.

Yes

>You are not trying to present a completely novel and
> unheard of idea and with today's crowd of sophisticated angel investors I am
> surprised that no one bites given the modest sums involved. BTW I was not
> trying to give needless advice, just finishing my thoughts. I already took
> it as a given that you look for funding. I am trying to understand why no
> one bites. It's not as if there are a hundred different AGI efforts out
> there to choose from.

I don't fully understand it myself, but it's a fact.

To be clear: I understand why VC's and big companies don't want to fund
NM.

VC's are in a different sort of business ...

and big companies are either focused
on the short term, or else have their own
research groups who don't want a bunch of upstart outsiders to get
their research
$$ ...

But what vexes me a bit is that none of the many wealthy futurists out
there have been
interested in funding NM extensively, either on an angel investment
basis, or on a
pure nonprofit donation basis (and we have considered doing NM as a nonprofit
before, though right now that's not our focus as the virtual-pets biz
opp seems so
grand...)

I know personally (and have met with) a number of folks who

-- could invest a couple million $$ in NM without it impacting their
lives at all

-- are deeply into the Singularity and AGI and related concepts

-- appear to personally like and respect me and other in the NM team

But, after spending about 1.5 years courting these sorts of folks,
Bruce and I largely
gave up and decided to focus on other avenues.

I have some psychocultural theories as to why things are this way, but
nothing too
solid...

>I am surprised that the reason may only be that the
> project isn't far enough along (too immature) given the historical
> precedents of what investors have ponied up money for before.

That's surely part of it ... but investors have put big $$ into much LESS
mature projects in areas such as nanotech and quantum computing.

AGI arouses an irrational amount of skepticism, compared to these other
futurist technologies, it seems to me.  I suppose this partly is
because there have
been more "false starts" toward AI in the past.

-- Ben

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