...and I guess you would also use another content-disposition value than 
"session" in your usage (again, since INFO cannot be used to directly modify 
the SIP session).

NOW I'm done with the reply to your e-mail ;)

Regards,

Christer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2007 3:37
> To: Adam Roach
> Cc: IETF SIP
> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I forgot the part about the indication of the support.
> 
> I agree that Accept: application/sdp itself may not be enough 
> to indicate the support for the specific usage.
> 
> So, either you could have e.g. an option-tag, some 
> application identifier, an extention to the Accept header - 
> or we would simply say that INFO cannot be used to transport 
> SDP (as I've said many times, I am not proposing to allow to 
> use INFO for whatever people want to).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2007 3:27
> > To: Adam Roach
> > Cc: IETF SIP
> > Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I think it is clearly said that INFO is not to be used to directly 
> > modify the SIP session, so unless there is an application on top of 
> > the SIP session that understands this information it would 
> simply be 
> > rejected.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Christer
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adam Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 22. heinäkuuta 2007 17:19
> > > To: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
> > > Cc: Eric Burger; IETF SIP
> > > Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
> > > 
> > > To rephrase what Eric is saying here in base principles: 
> > > _inferring_ what can be done with INFO by examining
> > supported content
> > > types is a "Do What I Mean" mechanism (as opposed to a "Do
> > What I Say" 
> > > mechanism). "Do What I Mean" is a well-known recipe for 
> > > interoperability failure. (For a well constructed
> > discussion of this,
> > > see Jonathan's service indication draft).
> > > 
> > > This is, for example, why we have an "Event" header field
> > in RFC 3265
> > > instead of simply inferring the event package from MIME type. (In 
> > > fact, this is why I started the draft that became 3265 in 
> the first 
> > > place -- with the dual uses of PINT and presence
> > threatening to take
> > > the SUBSCRIBE method down the path that INFO 
> unfortunately ended up 
> > > taking, an intervention was necessary).
> > > 
> > > To re-cast Eric's example from a slightly different angle: 
> > > imagine that a desired usage of INFO most naturally used 
> > > application/sdp as its payload. How would one indicate 
> support for 
> > > such a usage?
> > > 
> > > /a
> > > 
> > > Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF) wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I still don't get it, but let's take it face-to-face at
> > > some point :)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Christer
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Eric Burger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> Sent: 22. heinäkuuta 2007 10:14
> > > >> To: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF); IETF SIP
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
> > > >>
> > > >> That is the point - people have been saying, "I can
> > > negotiate INFO by
> > > >> using Content-Type."  This is a tiny example where using
> > > Content-Type
> > > >> to negotiate "INFO Packages" falls apart.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 7/22/07 3:10 AM, "Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)"
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>     
> > > >>> Why would I be expecting KPML, if I have only indicated
> > > >>>       
> > > >> that I support
> > > >>     
> > > >>> DTMF-over-INFO?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If I was to expect KPML, I would first need to establish a 
> > > >>> subscription for KPML (or, in our "controlled network", the 
> > > >>> subscription would be established by default, and I would
> > > >>>       
> > > >> know you are going to send KPML).
> > > >>     
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Christer
> > > >>>
> > > >>>       
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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