> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Proxies that recurse on 302 responses should be taken out and burned
> anyhow. It's just a tragically stupid thing to do in most cases. In
> the scenarios we're talking about, which probably involve a transition
> from a "no charge" IP call to a potentially very expensive (like, up
> to $25 a minute for some premium services) PSTN call, the user REALLY
> needs to be able to make a decision.

I think that's a great utopian view, but in the real world that would be 
impractical.  A great many SIP UA's are ultimately just TDM gateways, providing 
POTS-type interfaces into the home, or PBX phone lines into the office, etc.  
Afaik there is no way for them to indicate this redirection to the human, or 
have a way to be told yes/no by the human.  Some people handle this type of 
thing with an app-server b2bua where it plays out a message and takes in DTMF 
to make the decision, but I think that's uncommon.

I think/hope in the common case, if a call goes from one provider to another, 
the second provider will not recurse it outside of its domain and will pass it 
back upstream to the calling provider to decide.  I think that because often 
the billing model between them seems to dictate that.  I have no doubt some 
cases will occur to validate your concern, but I think market forces will 
"correct" them naturally over time.  Providers have plenty of natural 
motivation not to piss off their customers and regulators.

-hadriel
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