On Apr 18, 2008, at 7:00 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

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>
> Dean Willis wrote:
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>> Proxies that recurse on 302 responses should be taken out and  
>> burned  anyhow. It's just a tragically stupid thing to do in most  
>> cases. In  the scenarios we're talking about, which probably  
>> involve a transition  from a "no charge" IP call to a potentially  
>> very expensive (like, up  to $25 a minute for some premium  
>> services) PSTN call, the user REALLY  needs to be able to make a  
>> decision.
>
> This doesn't bother me. If this happens I'm just going to refuse to  
> pay the bill, with the argument that "I never called that number".  
> So this is a feature.

I look forward to seeing that argument played on Judge Judy's daytime  
TV show.

>
> IMO if a proxy was already forking, or prepared to fork, then  
> recursing on 3xx is not making things any worse.

That depends on who it was forking to. If the forks are "retargeting",  
then recursing on a 302 is only marginally worse. If however the forks  
are "rerouting", than recursing on a 302 raises all sorts of  
unanticipated respondent problems that not recursing would have avoided.

>
> Also, you are assuming that the recursion is happening in the  
> calling domain. It may well be happening in the called domain, which  
> may want to hide the 3xx response from the calling domain.

That's fair.

>> So the limitation you've noted doesn't bother me at all.
>
> Why should we need Supported:tel before tel can be used? Its already  
> supposed to be supported.
>

Ok, spec dude: Can you show me a citation that says tel: MUST be  
supported by a SIP UA? Even a SHOULD?

--
Dean

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