Below are comments based on my expectations of a Chat Room capability.  

I don't want to distract focus from what is already targeted - a demo of
the base content for 4.2 will be great to see. Also, to aid delivery of
a baseline content before worrying about adding more I've separated
pieces to consider as future content. 


Chat room expectations:

- Configuration by admin
If it makes sense for the admin to configure a chat room for a user then
I don't see as a concern, however, some key points are:
i) less admin overhead is generally preferred 
ii) giving everyone chat room capability as a default is fine
iii)Chat room participants should be ad-hoc and not pre-defined (I
wasn't clear on if the moderator has to pre-define the participant in
their buddy list vs. doing on the fly .. I would like to see on the
fly).

- Adhoc Chat room participants should be independent of audio/video conf
participants
User/moderator of chat room should be able to identify who they invite
to the chat room *and* do so independent of who is involved in an audio
conference they may have occurring in parallel. 

- mutltiple chat rooms (not req'd day 1)
Ideally, from a user perspective, he/she may have multiple chat rooms
open at the same time.  

- name the chat room (not req'd day 1)
A title or name for each chat room is desireable 

- sub-chat withing chat room (not req'd day 1)
participants in the chat room should be able to select all or only some
(one for example) participant to IM with.  


IAN


-----Original Message-----
From: Joly, Robert (CAR:9D30) 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:53 PM
To: Steinmann, Martin (BL60:2500); M. Ranganathan; Fowler, Peter
(CAR:9D10)
Cc: sipX developers
Subject: Re: [sipX-dev] Openfire chat room management assumptions /
questions

> >>
> >>
> 
> >As part of the Personal Assistant I support voice conference
> related IM
> >commands such as
>  > - who => who is/was talking
>  > - list => list participants
>  > - mute/unmute participant
>  > - disconnect participant
>  > - lock/unlock
> >
> >So having chat room IM commands provides consistency.
> 
> >
> >
> >The question was whether we want to support this in
> sipxconfig or can we just rely on the client providing these commands.

> I am concluding that sipxconfig support is >not necessary.
> >
> >Please elaborate on what was implied by your last statement.
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Ranga
> 
>  
> 
> We would like to focus on the Couterpath / SMC client. The first thing

> I am not clear about is how the user would enter a personal chat room 
> that he/she can moderate. By default is seems the client creates an 
> ad-hoc chat room. How would the client default to the one the user 
> owns or moderates?

I've been focusing on pidgin so far so pardon my ignorance.  You say
that by default the SMC client seems to create ad-hoc char rooms.  I've
tried to get my SMC3456 to do that much without success, how did you
achieve that?

So, as you can see from my question above, I cannot answer your
SMC-specific question but I can give you my general view on it based on
my pidgin experience.  The idea is that the sipXecs, when creating a
voice conference for a user, will also be given the opportunity to
create an associated chat room for which the user will be the moderator.
Once this is done a user can enter a chat room by adding it to its
'buddies' (in pidgin this is done via the 'add chat' option).   That
will make the chat room appear as a buddy and double-clicking it will
put you in that room.  

> 
> Once we know that I guess we need to figure out whether we want to 
> pre-provision personal group chat rooms for every user. I assume all 
> the nice commands only work if this is your room.

For consistency sake I would not do that and instead would keep with the
audio conference model, i.e. the admin creates the rooms that are
required.


> 
> At this stage I am unclear around how this feature of group chat would

> present itself to the user, other than offering the ability to create 
> an ad-hoc room (does the client do this on its own?).

Ad-hoc is not really the way I see this being used.  The idea is that a
multi-user chat would be owned by a user the same way it owns a
conference bridge.  This gives a user 'audio' and 'IM' conferencing
capabilities.  Furthermore, we are working at strengthening the link
between a user's audio and IM conferencing capabilities by adding the
capability of promoting an IM conference into an 'IM' + 'audio'
conference via a single text command.

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