Here's the old conversation........

 

That's for digging for that one Robert!

 

Sounds like passing back through to Cisco engineering would be worth it
if anybody here has a Cisco support contract on their phones.

 

Mike

 

-----Original Message-----

From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org

[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Sven
Evensen

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:39 PM

To: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)

Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org

Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

 

Bob,

 

Thanks for the excellent explanation. Do you think/know if the newer
Cisco phones 7941/7961 etc are better or are they same cr**?

 

Regards,

Sven

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:rj...@avaya.com]

Sent: 12 May 2010 18:09

To: Sven Evensen

Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

 

> 

> Bob,

> 

> Have you had a chance to look at the logs I sent.

 

Ok, I took a look at the logs and I finally found what was wrong.

Nowadays, when I look at traces I tend to assume that the fundamentals
of SIP are sound and focus my troubleshooting efforts on the trickier
parts of the protocol but every once in a while there comes a sad phone
implementation that reminds me that I shouldn't make such foolish
assumptions...

 

The Route: header that Cisco puts in its ACK is truncated.  It must
contain the entire Route as set by the Record-Route: header it gets in
the 200 OK but Cisco chooses the silently chop it which causes vital
information to be missing from the message.  The call is then treated as
a stale call and the NAT traversal cleanup routine sweeps the media part
of the call away after 5 minutes or so.

 

I suggest you use a real phone if you have one.

 

Cheers,

bob

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Sven Evensen

> Sent: 10 May 2010 17:19

> To: 'JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)'

> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

> 

> Hi Bob,

> 

> Here is a (hopefully) full snapshot.

> The call is from 8051 to 907795951717.

> The media dropped out after approx 5:05, I hung up 10 seconds later.

> 

> Regards,

> Sven

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:rj...@avaya.com]

> Sent: 05 May 2010 18:16

> To: Sven Evensen

> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

> 

> Sven,

> I looked at the traces and from a media perspective, the ITSP and 

> Cisco are well-behaved which leaves sipXecs as the prime suspect.  I 

> need to assign you more homework.  Please bump the logging level of 

> the Proxy, Media Relay and SIP Trunking to DEBUG and restart those 

> services.

> Reproduce the problem yet again and take a snapshot that will cover 

> the entire call time period.  Send the resulting snapshot directly to 

> me.

> 

> Thanks,

> bob

> 

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Sven Evensen [mailto:sven.even...@onrelay.com]

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:12 AM

> > To: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)

> > Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

> > 

> > Hi Robert, here is the attachment.

> > 

> > Sven

> > 

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org

> > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of JOLY, 

> > ROBERT (ROBERT)

> > Sent: 04 May 2010 20:35

> > To: Matt White; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org

> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

> > 

> > > 

> > > I believe there is a cisco issue.  We had another customer

> > report this

> > > issue with a set of cisco handsets yesterday.  I have not

> > heard back

> > > from our techs what they found yet, but the issue reported

> > to us was

> > > not via sipxbridge but for a remote worker calling to an internal 

> > > extension...so sipxrelay.

> > > 

> > > Calls drop at exactly 5:33 seconds.

> > > 

> > > >>> "Sven Evensen" 05/04/10 11:29 AM >>>

> > > 

> > > 

> > > Hi,

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > > We have a scenario where a Cisco 7640 dials out through

> our UK SIP

> > > trunk to a mobile. After 5 -6 minutes the media

> > > 

> > > suddenly ends. The calls stays up until the parties hang up. 

> > > This does not happen on the Polycom phone

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > > The only clue I see is that at the exact time the media

> > goes away, I

> > > can see in sipxrelay.log an entry "pauseBridge".

> > 

> > The pauseBridge entry would be there as a consequence of the call 

> > being terminated by one end.  So, it is the effect, not the cause.

> > Your best bet is to get a network trace of the problem and

> send it in.  

> > If you can run 'tcpdump -n -nn -s 0 -i any - w cisco_drop.cap' from 

> > the sipXecs command line, make a call, wait for it to fail and then 

> > send it to me, I'll check that the media and signaling are

> what they

> > are supposed to be.

> > 

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > > I am really not sure which logging to turn on to dig deeper

> > into this,

> > > can some one advise.

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > > This is sipX 4.0.4

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > > Regards,

> > > 

> > > Sven

> > > 

> > >  

> > > 

> > >  

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From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheid...@secnap.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:55 PM
To: Picher, Michael
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Voice Transmission stops after 29 Minutes

 

I have been on a cisco phone, fw 8-12, sipxecs 4.2.0 for over an hour,
with no problems.  and I don't remember any recent discussions on this.

are you thinking polycom phones with firmware 3.2.3, the known problem
with 'spotty' networks?  

I upgraded the firmware while doing regression testing.  I found 8-12
fixed a bunch of things that cisco didn't document fixing.
fix your codex to G.711 on phone and itsp, just in case.



On 6/23/10 1:47 PM, Picher, Michael wrote: 

Cisco phones going out through sipXbridge will drop off the call in
roughly 10 minutes.  On sipXecs 4.2.0.

 

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[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Scheidell
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:38 PM
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Voice Transmission stops after 29 Minutes

 

On 6/23/10 11:57 AM, Picher, Michael wrote: 

You left out some critical information...

 

Type of phones and how is user A reaching user B (ie., sipXbridge,
gateway)?

 

Are you running Cisco phones?  If you are, there's a known bug...

 

what known bug? what firmware has the bug?




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