Might I suggest a private MPLS cloud instead of the T1's with tagging for voice... this way he can use VVX's out on the fringe and we all know how fond of those he is.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Josh Patten <jpat...@co.brazos.tx.us> wrote: > Might I suggest putting a redundant proxy out at the remote location and > configuring your DNS like this: > http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/xecsuser/Location+based+DNS+views+for+sipXecs+using+BINDso > all phones at that location register to that redundant proxy. > > >From experience I would get a second point-to-point data T1 to that > location dedicated to voice. Having that many users chewing up your T1 PLUS > phones is just asking for trouble. > > Josh Patten > Assistant Network Administrator > Brazos County IT Dept. > (979) 361-4676 > > > On 7/1/2010 7:08 AM, Nathaniel Watkins wrote: > > The remote contains these offices (I’m not sure what some of these > offices due – some are State/Federal offices): > > Public Utilities > > Permits & Inspections > > Extension Office > > NRCS & GSCD > > Farm Service Agency > > Rural Development > > Election Board > > > > I totally agree that putting all your eggs in one T1 basket sounds like > crazy talk – however… > > > > Here are thoughts/concerns with a totally separate sipXecs install: > > 1) Manageability > > a. Patton will require additional routing rules for base > functionality > > b. Additional dialing rules to route between sipxósipxóNECóetc. > > c. Greatly complicates the overall design > > 2) Functionality > > a. End users are expecting the capability to plug their phones in > and just work (at any county location) – if we are routing DID’s to the > remote – and they plug their phones in at our Emergency Operations Center – > it needs to just ring there > > 3) Costs > > a. One of the driving factors is reducing costs – having a ‘server’ > (granted could be an inexpensive one), plus failover trunks (handful of POTS > lines), plus additional analog gatways. We are then looking at $2,000 > capital costs and $1,000 annual operating costs. This greatly drives down > the ROI and it seems hard to justify those costs coupled with the added > complexity of managing separate servers (plus having multiple DNS/DHCP > scopes). All to work around a potential 2% business interruption > (considering a potential 1 week down time hazard). > > > > A HA install could be a compromise, but that introduces its own issues - > Perhaps a good compromise of a unified system and failover would be to have > a second route between sites; i.e. have a site to site vpn over the > internet that would be a backup link. In the event of a T1 failure, we > could route traffic over said connection? > > > > In a perfect world, I’d love to have a single, simple to manage phone > system. Not 5 separate systems that I have to link together and have > equipment all over the place that I have to keep tabs on. Of course, I’d > also like to not get fired for killing all of our phones J > > > > > > Nathaniel Watkins > IT Director > Garrett County Government > 203 South 4th Street, Room 210 > Oakland, MD 21550 > Telephone: 301-334-5001 > Fax: 301-334-5021 > E-mail: nwatk...@garrettcounty.org > > > > *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [ > mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org<sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>] > *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano > *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 AM > *To:* maybelater > *Cc:* sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] sipx-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 154 > > > > Nathaniel, > > > > It really needs to be an analysis of "how that branch" functions. Depending > on the role the branch serves within the organization in the event of any > "natural disaster", especially for intra-office communication, relying on a > T1 to call down the hall, upstairs, downstairs, etc, is perhaps > "nonsensical". > > > > A local PSTN gateway for inbound calls to be redirected for a main number, > and for emergency outbound calling pretty well insulates it. With forty or > so workers, 1 T1 only goes so far when it comes to calls:bandwidth. Of > course, for branches with enough users, I always stick with a dedicated > system per branch as I like a higher level of functionality when something > goes down. For instance, if the T1 goes down and they can no longer make > enterprise calls to other branches, they can dial the published number via a > "copper rule" for dialing out via PSTN on a local gateway (as well as 911). > > > > Ultimately there has to be a "weight" to gauge what needs to be available, > and how efficient and connected the branch stays in an outage. With a > separate system the users can: > > > > 1. Continue t have their phones register. > > 2. Call each other. > > 3. Check voicemail. > > 4. Dial around to call out via alternate gateway (analog/siptrunk). > > 5. Call from their desk to bug you to ask you why you haven't fixed it yet. > > 6. Call other branches via their PSTN published number. > > > > Calling patterns, roles and survivability are all factors. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:26 AM, maybelater <maybela...@gmx.de> wrote: > > I might not be able to configure sipx the way I want, but been working in > sales and system-consulting for 4 years now. > > -breakdown of business telephony is major business killer > -according to Murphy your T1 WILL break down as soon as you rely on it too > much > -rerouting to mobile is great, but what about outbound calls ? > -need of local PSTN-Gateways is totally dependent on the task your > coworkers > on the remote site are doing, the availability they need for their > telephony > > I am a strong believer in centralization, thus I would just configure them > on the central PBX, but there are (of course) scenarios where the customer > Or the situation demands the best possible availability > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] Im Auftrag von > sipx-users-requ...@list.sipfoundry.org > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. 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