A private mpls network would introduce very minimal latency. But I think I'm done on this thread. the fact that he has that many users on a T1 is going to introduce latency when it is heavily used. MPLS may not be an option for him depending on how many sites he has like this. I recall Nathaniel likes vvx's, introduce on of them and ten calls and what happens to a T1?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Todd Hodgen <thod...@verizon.net> wrote: > I think the T-1 will give him a better network choice, as you won’t have > to deal with the added latency of MPLS. A simple router can provide > adequate QOS for Voice and Data connections, and the cost of a dedicated T-1 > from the Teleco in most areas is very affordable these days, especially for > Government. > > > > *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto: > sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano > *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:17 AM > *To:* Josh Patten > > *Cc:* sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Remote Location - 45 phones - separate server > or not? > > > > Might I suggest a private MPLS cloud instead of the T1's with tagging for > voice... this way he can use VVX's out on the fringe and we all know how > fond of those he is. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Josh Patten <jpat...@co.brazos.tx.us> > wrote: > > Might I suggest putting a redundant proxy out at the remote location and > configuring your DNS like this: > http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/xecsuser/Location+based+DNS+views+for+sipXecs+using+BINDso > all phones at that location register to that redundant proxy. > > >From experience I would get a second point-to-point data T1 to that > location dedicated to voice. Having that many users chewing up your T1 PLUS > phones is just asking for trouble. > > Josh Patten > > Assistant Network Administrator > > Brazos County IT Dept. > > (979) 361-4676 > > > On 7/1/2010 7:08 AM, Nathaniel Watkins wrote: > > The remote contains these offices (I’m not sure what some of these offices > due – some are State/Federal offices): > > Public Utilities > > Permits & Inspections > > Extension Office > > NRCS & GSCD > > Farm Service Agency > > Rural Development > > Election Board > > > > I totally agree that putting all your eggs in one T1 basket sounds like > crazy talk – however… > > > > Here are thoughts/concerns with a totally separate sipXecs install: > > 1) Manageability > > a. Patton will require additional routing rules for base > functionality > > b. Additional dialing rules to route between sipxósipxóNECóetc. > > c. Greatly complicates the overall design > > 2) Functionality > > a. End users are expecting the capability to plug their phones in > and just work (at any county location) – if we are routing DID’s to the > remote – and they plug their phones in at our Emergency Operations Center – > it needs to just ring there > > 3) Costs > > a. One of the driving factors is reducing costs – having a ‘server’ > (granted could be an inexpensive one), plus failover trunks (handful of POTS > lines), plus additional analog gatways. We are then looking at $2,000 > capital costs and $1,000 annual operating costs. This greatly drives down > the ROI and it seems hard to justify those costs coupled with the added > complexity of managing separate servers (plus having multiple DNS/DHCP > scopes). All to work around a potential 2% business interruption > (considering a potential 1 week down time hazard). > > > > A HA install could be a compromise, but that introduces its own issues - > Perhaps a good compromise of a unified system and failover would be to have > a second route between sites; i.e. have a site to site vpn over the > internet that would be a backup link. In the event of a T1 failure, we > could route traffic over said connection? > > > > In a perfect world, I’d love to have a single, simple to manage phone > system. Not 5 separate systems that I have to link together and have > equipment all over the place that I have to keep tabs on. Of course, I’d > also like to not get fired for killing all of our phones J > > > > > > Nathaniel Watkins > IT Director > Garrett County Government > 203 South 4th Street, Room 210 > Oakland, MD 21550 > Telephone: 301-334-5001 > Fax: 301-334-5021 > E-mail: nwatk...@garrettcounty.org > > > > *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [ > mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org<sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>] > *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano > *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 AM > *To:* maybelater > *Cc:* sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] sipx-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 154 > > > > Nathaniel, > > > > It really needs to be an analysis of "how that branch" functions. Depending > on the role the branch serves within the organization in the event of any > "natural disaster", especially for intra-office communication, relying on a > T1 to call down the hall, upstairs, downstairs, etc, is perhaps > "nonsensical". > > > > A local PSTN gateway for inbound calls to be redirected for a main number, > and for emergency outbound calling pretty well insulates it. With forty or > so workers, 1 T1 only goes so far when it comes to calls:bandwidth. Of > course, for branches with enough users, I always stick with a dedicated > system per branch as I like a higher level of functionality when something > goes down. For instance, if the T1 goes down and they can no longer make > enterprise calls to other branches, they can dial the published number via a > "copper rule" for dialing out via PSTN on a local gateway (as well as 911). > > > > Ultimately there has to be a "weight" to gauge what needs to be available, > and how efficient and connected the branch stays in an outage. With a > separate system the users can: > > > > 1. Continue t have their phones register. > > 2. Call each other. > > 3. Check voicemail. > > 4. Dial around to call out via alternate gateway (analog/siptrunk). > > 5. Call from their desk to bug you to ask you why you haven't fixed it yet. > > 6. Call other branches via their PSTN published number. > > > > Calling patterns, roles and survivability are all factors. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:26 AM, maybelater <maybela...@gmx.de> wrote: > > I might not be able to configure sipx the way I want, but been working in > sales and system-consulting for 4 years now. > > -breakdown of business telephony is major business killer > -according to Murphy your T1 WILL break down as soon as you rely on it too > much > -rerouting to mobile is great, but what about outbound calls ? > -need of local PSTN-Gateways is totally dependent on the task your > coworkers > on the remote site are doing, the availability they need for their > telephony > > I am a strong believer in centralization, thus I would just configure them > on the central PBX, but there are (of course) scenarios where the customer > Or the situation demands the best possible availability > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] Im Auftrag von > sipx-users-requ...@list.sipfoundry.org > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. 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