Tony,

What would you suggest for the proxy role in a case like this? I would like to 
do a similar project and I still can't get any semblance of failover to work 
when the Primary server is taken offline. I am looking for this solution, 
whether it is in sipXecs, another hardware unit, or software solution.


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From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org 
[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:42 PM
To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SIP Server Questions (Virtual vs Physical)

Ok, noone said anything on this yet, don't take this in any way except free 
advice or just a perspective on what I've seen and done.

In reading on some of the other lists (like FreeSwitch users), there is no 
"guarantee" that FS will operate properly in a Virtual environment. Resource 
planning is very important though, because good access to disk (low latency) 
and network (again latency) as well as RAM are very important. So allocation of 
these, and whether or not the resources (like RAM) are dedicated or not begin 
to creep up after prolonged uptime. I would suggest you look at this 
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Enterprise_deployment_Xen and also realize that 
while their (FS) wiki says one thing, I also hear them say "running in a 
virtual environment" is not always as reliable as a physical one, and even more 
so (favoring phyisical) in a cloud deployment (i.e. Amazon).

The type of storage network and other items factor in of course. I run VMWARE 
in the lab with sipx all the time, and its fine for that, and in certain 
production environments it has been fine too for limited use. I think the key 
in resources in RAM and planning though. With vmware you can over allocate RAM, 
which is fine, but when the "actual" ram usage (which does get high in sipx) 
starts to occur, it becomes important to not have memory allocation issues in 
your host environment, and once SWAP usage starts occurring you need to plan a 
reboot as you might experience a noticed degradation in services.

Separately, I believe the PROXY role must be chosen (even if not actively 
desired) on any node in a HA environment at the present method HA is written. I 
do not believe the sipXbridge role is capable of being redundant in HA at the 
present time. Gateway failover  as a result might need to be addressed if this 
is correct.


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Talbot, Peter 
<peter.tal...@nrtnortheast.com<mailto:peter.tal...@nrtnortheast.com>> wrote:
Hi all.

In further pursuing a 'Production Rollout' ready implementation of sipXecs, I 
had some final questions, mostly in regards to what can and cannot be 
Virtualized. Currently it is looking like anything that actually handles voice 
traffic (whether recorded messages or ongoing conversations) should remain 
physical due to timing constraints, but other Roles can be Virtualized.

What I am loosely looking at then, in a server layout fashion, would be 
something along the lines of:

SIPX1 - Physical Server (Internal network) - Management/Primary SIP Router
SIPX2 - Physical Server (Internal Network) - Redundant SIP Router
SBC1 - Virtual Server (DMZ) - Primary ITSP Gateway (SBC)
SBC2 - Virtual Server (DMZ) - Redundant ITSP Gateway (SBC)
SIPCN1 - Physical Server (Internal Network) - Conferencing
SIPWM1 - Physical Server (Internal Network) - Voicemail
SIPX3 - Virtual Server (Internal Network) - ACD/Instant Messaging

Physical and Virtual Servers would all be 64bit, running a minimum of 8GB of 
RAM, the VM1 machine having extra storage space, and all with a good processors 
(well above the recommended listed in Michael's book) and GB Ethernet. Virtual 
Machines would have slightly less power, but the Roles are slightly less power 
hungry anyway. In this instance, Remote Workers would be connected via VPN to 
our internal network, so Remote Worker traffic would act just like 'inside 
user' traffic.

Does the above seem like a plausible solution?

As a secondary necessity - in regards to load testing - what tools of those 
available (like WinSIP) would any of you recommend?

Peter Talbot
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