I think everyone has made their point and it is time to move on. Thanks to all who contributed to the project in 2011. Hopefully we can expand that list in 2012 and make this an even better project!
Sincerely, Dave Deutschman -----Original Message----- From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of m...@grounded.net Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:22 AM To: sipx-users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:37:37 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote: > Mike, contrary to what you say here, I specifically am not sure what a > VPRI is, and yes, after your sigh response, I Googled it and tried to > find a definition of what it was exactly. As I already said, it is not a term being used, I just figured it would not drop into all this nonsense to use it and that the pros in this list would easily know what I'm talking about. > With a telco background, PRI is very specific to me. VPRI could be > one of many things, and I really was asking what it was in the frame > of your questions. It wasn't meant to be condescending, and if it was, I apologize. Of course there are condescending attitudes on this list, it's been here for the many years I've been on it and it's usually from the same people. Then those same people defend themselves saying how there is no such behavior. But of course, the same folks who jump into the stupid thread are long time members who never suffer that crap so how would you know how it feels. You then call it ribbing each other, bullshit. I'd much prefer NEVER getting a reply to my questions unless they came without the condescending attitudes. The only defense some can make is 'sometimes it hurts'??? Give me a break, learning is difficult at times but it certainly should not come with being insulted. Practically every time I post something, replies come from the same people and always with the same condescending tones explaining how I used the wrong term or didn't provide enough information, etc etc. I've said countless times, this is not my day job like it is most of you here. I can figure most things out and sometimes comes a situation where I either have a problem or sure could use some input from the pros who are doing this full time. Asking a question here is like throwing the dice, it's a chance of not asking a question correctly and being insulted for it. > VPRI has nothing to do with me, and apparently is not something that > anyone knows anything about, except the company marketing with that > name, so I will not respond further on this thread. Of course you know what a VPRI is, almost anyone reading this thread will. And those that aren't into the head games will simply ask 'can you tell me what a vpri means, does it mean a virtual pri perhaps' and walk away learning something. There is no need to be anal in a mailing list. > -----Original Message----- > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of > m...@grounded.net > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:13 PM > To: sipx-users > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication > >> Sigh what? Mike, read about PRI - >> > Sigh... because you took the time to agree with Tony, giving me grief > while at the same time pointing out that you were not doing that. Of > course you were. Since Tony had already made his point, why did you > need to bring it up again? > > You then post a separate reply to the original question when just > before that, you told me you didn't know what I was talking about. > > Sigh because as soon as I point out the obvious such as I am now > having to do, a few of you must at all costs have fun with this, > turning the persons post into garbage making points like 'we need to > understand'. Does someone else feel the need still? > > Of course you know what I was asking about, I've seen plenty of people > talking about virtual PRI's. Who the heck would not know that a VPRI > might simply be an abbreviation. Doesn't seem to be at the moment but > give it time maybe :). > > Bottom line is that there are a few old timers on this list that seem > to feel the need to be hard nosed to people. Why? Maybe a few of the > users are simply too freaking serious for no good reason. Give it a > rest. There is no reason to be like that with ANYONE on this list. > No one makes you reply to anything, you don't have to. If you don't > like how someone posts something, it's not your place to be the > teacher or know it all and tell them how they need to learn everything > about VoIP before ever taking the chance of using the wrong term while > asking a question. God forbid! > >> That's all I'm saying, and I think that is what Tony was asking - >> what is it exactly. >> > A virtual PRI is really just a billing method for a SIP trunk. Figured > pretty much anyone on this list would know that. > The question really was, how do I set up sipx so that I can use IP > authentication to the ITSP over user/password. > > Anyways, moving on... > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org >> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of >> m...@grounded.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:08 PM >> To: sipx-users >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication >> >> <sigh> >> >> >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:55:11 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote: >>> Yes, but what is a virtual PRI? Since PRI is an ISDN standard, what is >> the >>> non-standard derivative that comes out of a Virtual PRI? What is it >>> exactly? >>> >>> Is it maybe a PRI that is fed out of device that is actually fed via >>> a >>> T1 >>> with SIP trunks on it? If it is, its still a PRI, conforming to the >>> PRI >>> standards, as it should. >>> >>> I believe what you are referring to is some companies marketing name >>> they use for a service they provide. I don't think anyone is giving >>> you grief, we just have no idea what you are talking about since we >>> haven't had the pleasure of reading the material you have, and >>> really haven't a clue what this VPRI is. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org >>> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of >>> m...@grounded.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:02 PM >>> To: sipx-users >>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote: >>>> I dont know VPRI means. If you use terms noone but you might >>>> understand you might explain it a bit. Throwing that aside... >>>> >>> When I don't use the right terms, I get grief and when I use the >>> terms I'm seeing in docs, I still get grief :). >>> I would have called it Virtual PRI but flowroute itself seems to >>> call it VPRI for short. >>> >>>> flowroute is a two-edged sword: Use the bandwidth.com template and >>>> change the bandwidth.com gateway stuff to your flowroute gateway. >>>> make sure flowroute is swet to send to your ip address and port 5080. >>>> Very >>> simple. >>> >>> I'll take a look at this. >>> >>>> If you use dual wan with flowroute you may have issues if you route >>>> netblocks or providers via specific wan ports. >>>> >>> Flowroute will be the only gateway these sipx servers will know and >>> have. >>> >>>> flowroute does not control >>>> the majority of their network and hence, RTP does not come from the >>>> same IP as the gateway. You pretty much have to open everything to >>>> use flowroute if you had been in locked down mode. >>>> >>> I didn't know this about them and to date, have always used an IP >>> allow rule for them. >>> Guess I've been lucky, haven't heard of any missed calls. >>> >>> These servers won't have any remote users but I wanted to have a bit >>> of security in place so figured I would block all but >>> sip.flowroute.com. Now I seem to have a new problem. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 PM, m...@grounded.net >>>> <m...@grounded.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I need to install 4 separate sipx systems in four separate >>>>> locations. >>>>> No interoffice communications. >>>> All of the sipx systems could benefit from the use of a VPRI rather >>>> than traditional. >>>> >>>> I use ITSP's for individual lines when we need an area code that >>>> our local telco cannot handle. >>>> On sipx, I usually just create an ITSP device in the gateway >>>> section and let it authenticate via user name/password. >>>> >>>> In this case, due to the number of lines per server (4 to 8), it >>>> doesn't seem like a good idea to authenticate each and every DID >>>> individually for example and would prefer using an IP based >>>> authentication for the whole server. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'll be using flowroute for the systems but am not sure how to >>>>> configure sipx to authenticate once based on IP over a user >>>>> name/password. I don't see anything which would allow me to do >>>>> this in the Gateway configuration section. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Can someone shed some light on this please. >>>>> >>>> Thanks very much. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ----- No virus found in this message. 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