+1
> I think everyone has made their point and it is time to move on.
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project in 2011. Hopefully we can
> expand that list in 2012 and make this an even better project!
>
> Sincerely,
> Dave Deutschman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
> m...@grounded.net
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:22 AM
> To: sipx-users
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:37:37 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote:
> > Mike, contrary to what you say here, I specifically am not sure
what a
> > VPRI is, and yes, after your sigh response, I Googled it and tried to
> > find a definition of what it was exactly.
>
> As I already said, it is not a term being used, I just figured it
would not
> drop into all this nonsense to use it and that the pros in this list
would
> easily know what I'm talking about.
>
> > With a telco background, PRI is very specific to me. VPRI could be
> > one of many things, and I really was asking what it was in the frame
> > of your questions. It wasn't meant to be condescending, and if it
was, I
> apologize.
>
> Of course there are condescending attitudes on this list, it's been
here for
> the many years I've been on it and it's usually from the same
people. Then
> those same people defend themselves saying how there is no such
behavior.
> But of course, the same folks who jump into the stupid thread are
long time
> members who never suffer that crap so how would you know how it
feels. You
> then call it ribbing each other, bullshit. I'd much prefer NEVER
getting a
> reply to my questions unless they came without the condescending
attitudes.
>
> The only defense some can make is 'sometimes it hurts'??? Give me a
break,
> learning is difficult at times but it certainly should not come with
being
> insulted. Practically every time I post something, replies come from the
> same people and always with the same condescending tones explaining
how I
> used the wrong term or didn't provide enough information, etc etc.
I've said
> countless times, this is not my day job like it is most of you here.
I can
> figure most things out and sometimes comes a situation where I
either have a
> problem or sure could use some input from the pros who are doing
this full
> time. Asking a question here is like throwing the dice, it's a
chance of not
> asking a question correctly and being insulted for it.
>
> > VPRI has nothing to do with me, and apparently is not something that
> > anyone knows anything about, except the company marketing with that
> > name, so I will not respond further on this thread.
>
> Of course you know what a VPRI is, almost anyone reading this thread
will.
> And those that aren't into the head games will simply ask 'can you
tell me
> what a vpri means, does it mean a virtual pri perhaps' and walk away
> learning something. There is no need to be anal in a mailing list.
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
> > m...@grounded.net
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:13 PM
> > To: sipx-users
> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
> >
> >> Sigh what? Mike, read about PRI -
> >>
> > Sigh... because you took the time to agree with Tony, giving me grief
> > while at the same time pointing out that you were not doing that. Of
> > course you were. Since Tony had already made his point, why did you
> > need to bring it up again?
> >
> > You then post a separate reply to the original question when just
> > before that, you told me you didn't know what I was talking about.
> >
> > Sigh because as soon as I point out the obvious such as I am now
> > having to do, a few of you must at all costs have fun with this,
> > turning the persons post into garbage making points like 'we need to
> > understand'. Does someone else feel the need still?
> >
> > Of course you know what I was asking about, I've seen plenty of
people
> > talking about virtual PRI's. Who the heck would not know that a VPRI
> > might simply be an abbreviation. Doesn't seem to be at the moment but
> > give it time maybe :).
> >
> > Bottom line is that there are a few old timers on this list that seem
> > to feel the need to be hard nosed to people. Why? Maybe a few of the
> > users are simply too freaking serious for no good reason. Give it a
> > rest. There is no reason to be like that with ANYONE on this list.
> > No one makes you reply to anything, you don't have to. If you don't
> > like how someone posts something, it's not your place to be the
> > teacher or know it all and tell them how they need to learn
everything
> > about VoIP before ever taking the chance of using the wrong term
while
> > asking a question. God forbid!
> >
> >> That's all I'm saying, and I think that is what Tony was asking -
> >> what is it exactly.
> >>
> > A virtual PRI is really just a billing method for a SIP trunk.
Figured
> > pretty much anyone on this list would know that.
> > The question really was, how do I set up sipx so that I can use IP
> > authentication to the ITSP over user/password.
> >
> > Anyways, moving on...
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> >> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
> >> m...@grounded.net
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:08 PM
> >> To: sipx-users
> >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
> >>
> >> <sigh>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:55:11 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote:
> >>> Yes, but what is a virtual PRI? Since PRI is an ISDN standard,
what is
> >> the
> >>> non-standard derivative that comes out of a Virtual PRI? What
is it
> >>> exactly?
> >>>
> >>> Is it maybe a PRI that is fed out of device that is actually fed
via
> >>> a
> >>> T1
> >>> with SIP trunks on it? If it is, its still a PRI, conforming
to the
> >>> PRI
> >>> standards, as it should.
> >>>
> >>> I believe what you are referring to is some companies marketing
name
> >>> they use for a service they provide. I don't think anyone is
giving
> >>> you grief, we just have no idea what you are talking about since we
> >>> haven't had the pleasure of reading the material you have, and
> >>> really haven't a clue what this VPRI is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> >>> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> m...@grounded.net
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:02 PM
> >>> To: sipx-users
> >>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote:
> >>>> I dont know VPRI means. If you use terms noone but you might
> >>>> understand you might explain it a bit. Throwing that aside...
> >>>>
> >>> When I don't use the right terms, I get grief and when I use the
> >>> terms I'm seeing in docs, I still get grief :).
> >>> I would have called it Virtual PRI but flowroute itself seems to
> >>> call it VPRI for short.
> >>>
> >>>> flowroute is a two-edged sword: Use the bandwidth.com template and
> >>>> change the bandwidth.com gateway stuff to your flowroute gateway.
> >>>> make sure flowroute is swet to send to your ip address and port
5080.
> >>>> Very
> >>> simple.
> >>>
> >>> I'll take a look at this.
> >>>
> >>>> If you use dual wan with flowroute you may have issues if you
route
> >>>> netblocks or providers via specific wan ports.
> >>>>
> >>> Flowroute will be the only gateway these sipx servers will know and
> >>> have.
> >>>
> >>>> flowroute does not control
> >>>> the majority of their network and hence, RTP does not come from
the
> >>>> same IP as the gateway. You pretty much have to open everything to
> >>>> use flowroute if you had been in locked down mode.
> >>>>
> >>> I didn't know this about them and to date, have always used an IP
> >>> allow rule for them.
> >>> Guess I've been lucky, haven't heard of any missed calls.
> >>>
> >>> These servers won't have any remote users but I wanted to have a
bit
> >>> of security in place so figured I would block all but
> >>> sip.flowroute.com. Now I seem to have a new problem.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 PM, m...@grounded.net
> >>>> <m...@grounded.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I need to install 4 separate sipx systems in four separate
> >>>>> locations.
> >>>>> No interoffice communications.
> >>>> All of the sipx systems could benefit from the use of a VPRI
rather
> >>>> than traditional.
> >>>>
> >>>> I use ITSP's for individual lines when we need an area code that
> >>>> our local telco cannot handle.
> >>>> On sipx, I usually just create an ITSP device in the gateway
> >>>> section and let it authenticate via user name/password.
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, due to the number of lines per server (4 to 8), it
> >>>> doesn't seem like a good idea to authenticate each and every DID
> >>>> individually for example and would prefer using an IP based
> >>>> authentication for the whole server.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'll be using flowroute for the systems but am not sure how to
> >>>>> configure sipx to authenticate once based on IP over a user
> >>>>> name/password. I don't see anything which would allow me to do
> >>>>> this in the Gateway configuration section.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Can someone shed some light on this please.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thanks very much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
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