http://code.google.com/p/csipsimple/issues/detail?id=1500
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Radke <andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au>wrote: > Hi Philippe > > I did like the look of CSipSImple. Two things it is missing that we need > are G729 and the ability to transfer calls. Otherwise I would definitely > say it would be my choice in SIP client. > > And yes, I wish I could do away with G729 but we have very limitedInternet > bandwidth where we are. Hmmm... maybe a proxy for outbound calls > via our ITSP that transcoded G711 to G729... but that would be another > topic entirely. > > Andrew > > On 8/05/12 8:17 PM, Philippe Laurent wrote: > > After this discussion a few weeks ago, I purchased several Galaxy Player 4 > units for testing, each loaded with the CSipSimple software. We've been so > pleased with their performance that we've added these to our arsenal, as > their noise handling, service time (> 8 hours), and integration with a > maintenance web app that I rolled into an Android App shell were excellent. > Combine this with an app that jails all but a few apps on the phone, and > you have a great kiosk phone that strips music and other 'features' we > don't need or want. > > CSipSimple has advanced features (the advanced menu has to be activated) > that addresses wifi sleep modes and a dozen other items (including mic and > audio boost). > > Philippe > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Michael Picher <mpic...@ezuce.com> wrote: > >> Well, if cost is no option, and at this point you've blown 2 weeks... >> bite the bullet and get some Polycom 8440's. Heavy duty and they have the >> Polycom SIP firmware that is known to work well. >> >> Bria should have a setting for WiFi keepalive. I thought csipsimple >> also had such a setting... >> >> Battery will be your issue with ANY wifi device. This is why SIP DECT >> phones exist. >> >> Mike >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Andrew Radke <andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've being working with this now for about two weeks with some good >>> and bad and mixed results. This email will hopefully be a summary of where >>> I have gotten too and also a request for suggestions and experiences from >>> others. >>> >>> So the short summary would be that they very work well when the >>> Android OS doesn't put the wireless to sleep. >>> >>> The longer version is that the problem is divided into two parts: >>> maintaining the wireless connection and the SIP soft phone. >>> >>> Wireless: >>> >>> - The biggest problem I have encountered is keeping the wireless >>> alive and connected. Android itself constantly wants to shut it down to >>> save battery and it has to stay on. The Wifi Fixer app ( >>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wahtod.wififixer) >>> possibly helps with this but then I've found that Android itself seems to >>> have a bugs connecting reliably to WPA enterprise access points. I am in >>> the process of testing now with a WPA2-Personal setup using multi-SSID >>> capable WAPs to see if they work better this way. Any suggestions would >>> be >>> greatly appreciated. >>> - I've also found it can take a very long time to switch WAPs but I >>> think that is because our environment is almost too good and you can >>> still >>> get a very marginal signal from one access point when it should've long >>> ago >>> switched to a closer one. >>> >>> >>> Softphone apps: >>> >>> - Acrobits Groundwire has the most reliable and functional client >>> but attended transferring is a massive pain. >>> - Bria has the simplest interface for transferring but has a few >>> (minor) interface stupidities and some major idiocies. If it looses a >>> connection to sipX (from the wireless being unavailable temporarily) it >>> throws up an error and doesn't reregister until you notice and clear it. >>> Basically this makes it totally unreliable and useless as a softphone. >>> Also >>> it's setting for keeping the wireless active doesn't seem to do anything. >>> >>> >>> Hardware: >>> So far we've tested on two units purchased as prepaid phones but without >>> the SIM card inserted. >>> >>> - Samsung Galaxy Y (AU $129) is terrible as a regular phone and >>> worse as anything else. It probably won't even be usable as a test unit >>> later and will be thrown in the rubbish. >>> - LG Optimus Spirit (AU $99 and available at $49.50 for a while) is >>> very very nice. Speaker phone doesn't work but everything else makes >>> this a >>> steal. >>> >>> >>> Andrew Radke >>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>> PO Box 220 >>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>> Email: andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au >>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>> >>> On 18/04/2012, at 9:30 PM, Philippe Laurent wrote: >>> >>> Curious about the Galaxy Player, can it be used as a handset, or is it >>> speakerphone only or bluetooth required? >>> >>> Regarding iPhone apps, we tried Acrobits SIP and Acrobits Groundwire >>> (a few more biz features such as transferring), both are polished apps and >>> worked very well. As Tony pointed out, battery life suffers (figure on less >>> than a day's charge), and your quality experience will rely strongly on >>> your wifi deployment. The ability to have a device that allows you to work >>> with business apps as well as communication (email, voice, txt) is >>> priceless, but in the end we did not deploy this type of technology due to >>> our high noise environment, large glass in a fairly tough environment, and >>> the need to have devices with battery life that could extend beyond two >>> shifts (16 hours). >>> >>> We chose the KIRK line because of excellent battery life, excellent >>> (almost scary) signal penetration in our factory environment, abuse >>> survivability, and the ability to send targeted alerts to the phones >>> (maintenance alerts, etc) with the 6000 server and 6020 phones, which >>> replaced lost functionality that the iOS/Android platform would have >>> delivered primarily. >>> >>> Your scenario seems to be different, and the iOS/Android choice may be >>> a truly tenable solution, given the deployment of a high quality wifi >>> environment. >>> >>> Philippe >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Tony Graziano < >>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote: >>> >>>> In your case I would test coverage with "any" app, besides counterpath, >>>> you can try the free 3cx (Android and iOS) app and others. The biggest >>>> thing you will find with wifi -- battery life/talktime (especially when >>>> received wifi signals are weak), don't hold up nearly as long as DECT. So >>>> your wifi deployment, coverage has a lot to do with battery life and >>>> talktime. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Radke < >>>> andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tony, >>>>> >>>>> We are looking at outdoor coverage but with a lot of trees and >>>>> vegetation. >>>>> >>>>> Considering your response it shows that things have changed in >>>>> recent years too… >>>>> >>>>> We do also have large wifi coverage already and are constantly >>>>> increasing it. In the past it seemed that wifi was considered universally >>>>> terrible. Has that changed? >>>>> >>>>> And are there any good smartphone apps? I guess it would be Android >>>>> rather than iPhone since it is possible to get reasonable Android handsets >>>>> cheaply on prepaid plans and then don't use the cellular side at all. But >>>>> for those of us with existing iPhones is there any recommended apps? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Radke >>>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>>>> PO Box 220 >>>>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>>>> Email: andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au >>>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>>>> >>>>> On 17/04/2012, at 8:04 PM, Tony Graziano wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You need to explain what kind of coverage you need and what kind >>>>> of wireless infrastructure you have (if any). >>>>> >>>>> Snom makes a dect phone which also has wireless repeaters and should >>>>> work fine. The battery life and talk time is very good and does not >>>>> interfere with wifi at all. >>>>> >>>>> If you have a wifi infrastructure you could opt for an app on a >>>>> smartphone. >>>>> On Apr 17, 2012 12:56 AM, "Andrew Radke" <andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a query to see what the current thoughts are on cordless >>>>>> phones. >>>>>> >>>>>> We probably need 2-3 phones fairly soon that can transfer calls. It >>>>>> would be nice (but not immediately required) to have the phones capable >>>>>> of >>>>>> switching between multiple base stations due to the physical area to be >>>>>> covered. Of course this adds a lot to the price so may be judged to be >>>>>> uneconomical. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know this has been asked before but a lot can change with VoIP >>>>>> phones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew Radke >>>>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>>>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>>>>> PO Box 220 >>>>>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>>>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>>>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>>>>> Email: andrew.ra...@yuruga.com.au >>>>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>>>> sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net >>>>> >>>>> Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net >>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Tony Graziano, Manager >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >>>> sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net >>>> Fax: 434.465.6833 >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Linked-In Profile: >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >>>> Ask about our Internet Fax services! >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>>> sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net >>>> >>>> Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net >>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services >> eZuce, Inc. >> >> 300 Brickstone Square >> >> Suite 201 >> >> Andover, MA. 01810 >> O.978-296-1005 X2015 >> M.207-956-0262 >> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> >> www.ezuce.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary >> and those who don't. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing listsipx-us...@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >
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