Hi again,
Fine, I was able to compile it successfuly (70some warnings, but
what's a program without those?). And I put them into the _NewBase
directory of an AppleGlot environment. I made the first pass and it
took 51 strings to translate. Too few in my opinion. It was almost
everything about updating information. I translated it with lots of
faith. And the resulting application has the update information and
message boxes in Spanish, but everything else in English.
I'm almost sure that it's an AppleGlot issue. If I open the console I
can read some of these errors:
--
2007-09-26 00:22:05.134 AppleGlot[8106]: DebugAssert: AppleGlot:
props != NULL NIL_PROP_LIST_FROM_XML_STRINGS_FILE [/SourceCache/
AppleGlot/AppleGlot-25/sources/plugins/StringsFilePlugin.cpp:901]
--
Which I think are the problem here. You may think this has something
to do with the path of my project, containing non-good characters
like áé. A `pwd` from the trunk directory shows:
--
/Users/myusername/Documents/Programacion/Skim/source/trunk
--
So I've no idea what's going on with this thing... I'm sorry to
bother you with this nonsense and thanks again for your effor to
solve it.
Cheers.
Alejandro Cámara Iglesias
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El 25/09/2007, a las 23:39, Christiaan Hofman escribió:
OK, this is not exactly what you should have done.
You should build Skim from source (in Release configuration). Then
move the whole Skim.app bundle into _NewBase, and run the Initial
Pass in AppleGlot. Then you should translate the Working Glossary
(double-click it in the table, you may have to double-click twice).
It is not really a problem that you translated the 3 files you did
(AppleGlot would do that the same way for you as part of the
process, apart from the credits).
As for not being able to build, that is probably because you don't
have a separate build location set? Go to Xcode's Building
preferences and choose a separate build location (and also
intermediate location). I have chosen ~/Development/BuildProducts
and ~/Development/BuildProducts/Intermediates. This way Skim is
able to find the intermediate products such as the Sparkle framework.
Christiaan
On 25 Sep 2007, at 10:57 PM, Alejandro Cámara Iglesias wrote:
Ok, I think I'm doing something really bad. So I'm going to write
what I did.
1) I downloaded the main trunk from svn.
2) I created a new environment with AppleGlot.
3) I copied the Spanish.lproj/ files into _NewBase.
4) I did the first step 'Initial Pass' in AppleGlot.
5) It showed me three files to modify: InfoPlist.strings
Localizable.strings and ZoomValues.strings.
6) I translated all the three files.
7) I opened and compiled the source from the xcodeproj.
8) The compiler complains about the following error:
Copying build/Release/Sparkle.framework (1 error)
pbxcp: Sparkle.framework: No such file or directory
9) I commited the three files into svn.
That's it. I don't what to do to take the translation strings from
the nib files. I suspect it has something to do with some error of
nibtool, but I have xcode updated. Thanks for all your help, and
sorry for my clumsyness.
Alejandro Cámara Iglesias
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El 25/09/2007, a las 22:27, Christiaan Hofman escribió:
BTW, what did you precisely translate? Were you able to build
Skim in the first place, because that's what you need to translate.
Christiaan
On 25 Sep 2007, at 5:13 PM, Alejandro Cámara Iglesias wrote:
Hi Christiaan and list,
Well, I commited something, I hope it's the translation :)
I couldn't compile it because it complains about not being able
to copy some files. But this time it generates an executable
file. But when I open it it's in English, so probably I did
something wrong. At least I'm not going to loose the translation
since I commited...
See ya!
Alejandro Cámara Iglesias
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El 25/09/2007, a las 16:36, Christiaan Hofman escribió:
Thanks. I've added you to the project, so you should now be
able to commit.
Christiaan
On 25 Sep 2007, at 4:18 PM, Alejandro Cámara Iglesias wrote:
Hi Christiaan,
Ok, now I can translate all the strings of the nib files with
AppleGlot. I haven't finished yet, but once I finish I'll
upload it to the Subversion repository. I just completed the
form to create a SF account. My username is alexcamara. I hope
that's everything you need from me :)
Cheers.
Alejandro Cámara Iglesias
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El 25/09/2007, a las 11:44, Christiaan Hofman escribió:
Oh, and I don't know iLingual at all. I wonder if it is a
good choice, from the (very) quick look it seems less useful
than e.g. Localization Suite 2.0.
The reason I like to use AppleGlot rather than something like
Localization Suite or iLingual is that AppleGlot works with
human readable XML files, while the others have some kind of
binary files that only they can read. AppleGlot is a bit less
accessible (and rough around the edges) but that's mostly the
first time you need to figure out how it works, for
incremental updates it's easy.
Christiaan
On 9/25/07, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just added all the files for the Spanish localization, so
if you update the svn source you should use those. It should
compile fine in Xcode, if not tell me and I'll try to fix it.
If you want to commit your translation I'll have to add you
as a developer, do you have a SourceForge account?
Christiaan
On 25 Sep 2007, at 11:10 AM, Alejandro Cámara Iglesias wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I just found iLingual and I just made
a try to see how was the translation. It's awful. And I'm
translating again using iLingual. Do you have any advice
using that? I use the svn service to download the source.
Alejandro Cámara Iglesias
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
El 25/09/2007, a las 11:01, Christiaan Hofman escribió:
Thanks a lot. But it probably is better if you can use
AppleGlot or some other program to translate, otherwise you
cannot do incremental updates, which is very important.
AppleGlot should create the strings files inside the nib
itself. Do you use svn to get the source? In that case I
could add the necessary files for the Spanish translation
to the svn source. Otherwise you can also just translate
the latest release with AppleGlot.
Christiaan
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