I will probably convert to both MP3 and OGG, OGG for home and MP3 for
work as the player that we use at work does not support OGG.

On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 20:52, Kevin Saenz wrote:
> What have you configured grip to convert the wav files to mp3,ogg, etc?
> with mp3 you need to look for either lame, bladeenc, etc
> 
> 
> > OK I have ripped the CD using GRIP (as Wav files) but the errors can now
> > be heard. From what I understand they place error traps into the non CD
> > to prevent it being played. From what I can see Grip has recorded the
> > errors as sound, so it sounds like an album that has the occasional
> > scratch.
> > 
> > Andrew D
> > 
> > On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 18:11, Gottfried Szing wrote:
> > > Richard Neal wrote:
> > > 
> > > > What I do is ask the shopkeeper "Is this a AUDIO CD", if they say yes
> > > > and its one of those broken copy protected heaps of shite CD's, then
> > > > complain to everyone you can think of because its "ILLEGAL" to sell copy
> > > > protected CD's as AUDIO CD'S because Philips have defined the format as
> > > > NOT being copy protected CD's.
> > > 
> > > maybe i am wrong, and frequently i am i have to admit. but i think the 
> > > problem with the "CDs" is not the copy protection (or the idea behind) 
> > > itself. i think the real problem philips sees is that the copy-protected 
> > > CDs are violating the CD standard and therefore the MI is not allowed to 
> > > print the cd-label on the cover.
> > > 
> > > > In Europe this created such a stink the CD's has to be removed of the
> > > > shelves and clearly re-labelled. This reminds me of iTunes songs and how
> > > 
> > > i can just describe the situation in austria: there is not really a law 
> > > that you have to label the CDs or to inform the customer that he is 
> > > going to buy crap (i dont mean the music itself :)) ). you have the 
> > > rigth to give the CD back, but doing this is really a pain. it is really 
> > > difficult to go to a big music store like virgin to get your money back. 
> > > and removing from the shelves? never seen this in austria. as long as 
> > > there is no law to force the MI or the music shops, this wont happen.
> > > 
> > > > some buyers are now realising they now have "worthless" files with a
> > > > "limited" life license. Many people rip out the DRM stuff but they don't
> > > > realise that it's illegal to do so and nulls their original license
> > > > making them no better than the people using p2p as far as music Nazi's
> > > > are concerned.
> > > 
> > > yep, itunes is - like all the other online stores - a nice and at the 
> > > first look a cheap alternativ. but for is the price for 
> > > limited-use-digital-copy to high. i have to pay for the song, for the 
> > > internet and for the mac and than i have just a copy of bytes, with 
> > > which i cannot do much.
> > > 
> > > so, cya and happy new year to all, gottfried
> > -- 
> > AndrewD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin Saenz
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