Dan,
        VERY interesting!  Thanks for the test results/test criteria.  Maybe the
radio I am RMA-ing is having heat problems.  It was always dropping off
after 1pm, normally around 3pm right when it is starting to get good and
hot.  A reset might keep it up for about 20 minutes and then it would go
back down.  It worked real late at night and in the mornings.  Now I can't
get into it because the ethernet won't come up after flashing it with the
1.43 firmware.  What was weird was that after I flashed it the ethernet
would blink on/off about every 5 seconds.  After I reset it with the POE
that was when it wouldn't come up.  I set my ethernet adapter to 10half from
auto just for kicks but it didn't help.  I'm going to send the POE MAC and
radio MAC to support after I replace the unit with an APPO today.  I am also
going to check on possible interference of some sort at that part of the
day.  Maybe the government is scanning my town with a satellite for possible
alien infestation!  HA!

Thanks again!

Scott Wells

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] List of my Radio's


We have about 50 in service.  These 17 will be RMA'd.  Smartbridge
will get them figured out.  I just did all of this testing to try to
help SB figure out where/what the issues are.

Thanks.........Dan


On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:11:35 -0700
"George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan
> You have 17 bad radios and 2 that may be good. How many do you have
> in
> production ?
> My own personal policy with cheap electronics that have issues, send
> it back
> or to the dumpster, but I won't put an iffy anything out there with
> my name
> on it.
> Curious what percent you have that is problematic.
> George
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan @ Wyoming.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:57 PM
> Subject: [smartBridges] List of my Radio's
>
>
> > Well I have finally had time to go through the stack of Radio's in
> >the
> > corner of my office.  As you all know we have had some issues over
> >the
> > last few months.  I spent all day in my office on Friday going
> >through
> > every radio one by one.  There were 19 radio's stacked up in my
> >office
> > that needed to be tested.  I cut all of the 50' cables off of each
> >ABO
> > unless it was already done so that they were easier to work with.
> > I
> > recrimped every single radio with a new RJ-45 connector.  I
> >recrimped
> > several of them just to make sure it had a good crimp.  These were
> >all
> > test in my office to a new APPO.  All of these radio's were tested
> >and
> > defaulted with the same powershot, Coax cable, and Antenna.
> >
> > Of the 19 radio's 2 of them turned out to be good from testing in
> >my
> > office.  I still need to test them out in the field though.  They
> >may
> > have been swapped out with frustration of other issues that we have
> > been fighting or maybe they were freezing up.  I will know more
> >about
> > the 2 good radio's after I get to put them out in the real world.
> >
> > So that left me with 17 bad units.  They all turned out to have 1
> >of 4
> > problems.  The 4 issues that I found were the following....
> >
> >
> > Bad Ethernet (6)
> > Over Heating (4)
> > Dead Radio (3)
> > Wierd Issues (4)
> >
> > I will break out what I found from these issues.  I will describe
> >the
> > ABO's as either Old or New Style.  The old style will be the ones
> >with
> > the 50' cabel attached.  The new style will be the new ones that
> >just
> > came out with the pig tail like the Totals.
> >
> > Bad Ethernet......(6)
> > These are all on the old style ABO's.  The ethernet will just not
> >come
> > up.  I recrimped several time, but still couldn't get an ethernet
> > connection.  The power shot will still default the radio's, but
> >still
> > no etherent connection.  The wireless link still comes up and I can
> > access the radio with Simple Monitor.  I even tried defaulting the
> > radio with Simple Monitor, but the ethernet still wont work.
> >
> > Over Heating........(4)
> > These are all on the new style ABO's.  The radio works just fine
> >when
> > first installed, but as soon as the radio warms up it will not
> > associate to the AP.  The etherent seems to be fine most of the
> >time,
> > but one of them did seem to have a weird ethernet issue also.  If
> >you
> > let them cool off then they will work fine.  Sometimes it will only
> > run for 5 minutes before the link drops.  For testing in my office
> >I
> > just layed the ABO flat on my desk and set the box that the unit
> >comes
> > in on top of the radio.  Within an hour the radio has dropped its
> >link
> > and will not come back up even if I reboot it.  I bought ten of
> >these
> > new style radios and now have 5 good ones in service, but had to
> >swap
> > out 4 of them because of this over heating issue.  I still have one
> >on
> > the shelf and I hope it is good.
> >
> > Dead Radio's.......(3)
> > These are all the old style ABO's.  Not alot I can say about these
> >3
> > radio's.  They are just dead.  Ethernet won't come up.  The
> >wireless
> > link will not come up.  One of the units will power up, but will
> >not
> > do anything.  I have tried to default it also, but still wont do
> > anything.  The other two will not even power up so there isn't much
> >I
> > can do.  I have tried several new connectors just to make sure
> >wiring
> > is good, but still wont power up.
> >
> > Wierd Issues.......(4)
> > Three of the radio's are the old style ABO's and one is a Total.
> > All
> > four of these radio's kept freezing up and were all connected to
> >the
> > same AP.  We were trying to rule out interference so we got this
> > bright idea to change the Regulatory Domain to TELEC so that we can
> > have 14 channels.  We were going to just see if our RSSI and JITTER
> > would come up or not.  I made the changes in all four radios with
> > Simple Monitor from my office.  Then I jumped into the AP and
> >changed
> > it also.  None of the radio's would come up.  Then we had to make
> > truck roles.  When we got on site we couldn't get into the radio's
> > with Simple Monitor.  The MAC and IP have defaulted in all 4
> >radios.
> >  None of them will default back to SB defaults either.  Here is
> >what
> > the Radio's show now.
> >
> > MAC   0000222222FE
> > IP    10.170.254.41
> > NAME  DEMO
> >
> > I can ping all 4 radios to their new IP's, but Simple Monitor will
> >not
> > work so I can't get them to SB defaults.  The wireless link will
> >not
> > come up either.  There are 5 radios that are connected to that same
> >AP
> > and we have since changed out these 4 radios with new ones.  The 4
> >new
> > radio's have been rock solid since, but the 5th one that didn't get
> > swapped out is still freezing up.  The reason we didn't change the
> > Domain in the 5th radio was becasue it was a Friday and they were
> > closed and it had froze up so I couldn't get into it.  The only
> >thing
> > I can figure out on this wierd issue was (Friday the 13th).
> >
> >
> > Well that is what I have come up with in my testing.  I will
> >attatch a
> > TXT file that has each radio broke out with what they are doing
> >along
> > with their MAC's.  I am also copying SB support so they can track
> >the
> > MAC's to see where the issues are coming from.  I don't have dates
> >of
> > when I got them, but we got all of them from EC in Denver.
> >
> > Are some of these issues what others are seeing in their radio's?
> > We
> > sitll have a few radio's that are frezzing up, but can't seem to
> > figure out what the issues are.
> >
> > I am sending this to the list just in case someone knows someting
> >else
> > that I can try on these units.
> >
> > Thanks........Dan
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