Just FYI Alex.....

I have been using a Motorola Canopy 24V power shot on my link for about 2 months now. I had 3 radio's die at my house before I put the bigger power supply in. So now the 4 radio has a 24V power supply and hasn't missed a beat yet. Seems like someone from SB mentioned once before to never put anything over 24V which gave us the idea. He said DO NOT USE A 30V POWER SUPPLY. Anyways my 24V power shot has been working great. Only down side is that I can't default the radio with the Canopy power shot.

Thanks............Dan


On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:41:59 +0800
"sB Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, the max voltage used is 18V which is stated in
http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/ps.php . Using higher voltage
of 48V in this case will damage the equipment.
Alex
sB Tech Support


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Which reminds me... Alex.. you never answerd my question... Can the SB's
support taking a 48volt DC input?


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Anyone that makes UPS's for datacenters... Triplite.. APC.. Lorain
(Their Vortex series)... Lambert.... and about a dozen more... A lot
of datacenter equipment is 48v DC powerd...


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Who makes the 48v UPSes?


-----Original Message-----
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Even cheaper... 12volt car batt, 12 volt charger with a trickle charge
capability.... :D
But they do make UPS's that spit out 48v DC with a normal utility
input... According to the PoE spec's, equipment is suppose to be able
to take 12-48volts... But SB would have to comment on if they accually
followed the spec's/RFC's.... :D


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You can make one easy enough. Around $130-180. Look at altronix.com for
the 18-24vdc regulator/back/charger module ($45-75) get two 12v 7
amphour ($12 ea) or larger gel-cell or sealed lead-acid batteries and a
1200VA transformer ($60-80) and you are all set. This will charge the
batteries and regulate the voltage when AC is normal, back up to
batteries when AC fails and should run for 12-14 hours on batteries if
you use the 7Ah ones.
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I just want a 1400 UPS from APC that spits out DC. That way we don't
have to power the invertor.


-----Original Message-----
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These power condition as well... Their not the cheaper UPS's you goto
Best Buy and pay $100 bucks for. I have software that I can look at the
power level's from the utility, and from the UPS plugs and see the diff.
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This does not pertain to your problem. Haveing an average UPS does not
eliminate spikes, surges and some sags. Only ones labled as power
conditioning UPSs do that (and the cheaper one don't do it that well).
When the average UPS is not on battery backup it acts just like a surge
supressor and must be rated to handle the level of noise on your power
lines. Just an FYI
TO SMARTBRIDGES - Has any testing been done to see how a non-sine wave
AC source affects the units? Most UPS produce a modified square wave or
sawtooth AC wave and not a pure sine wave.
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Kinda sounds like something I came across a few weeks ago....
Here on my desk, I have a aPP. It's always up and running, plugged into
a UPS and a network that has everything on a UPS. (so no surges
anyplace) Anyway, I upgraded the firmware several several weeks back.
(forget when exactly). I got home, plugged in my laptop, slamed in my
wireless card... and went no where. I associated just fine, but I
couldn't pass any packets.
I got into simpleMonitor and looked at the ethernet stats, and it shows
packets being sent and recived. I reboot the AP... reassociate... and
it passes 3 packets, then dies... I went aroun and around with it with
reset's, fact resets, fw reloads... etc etc... for about 2 hours. And after messing with it that long, I finally got it to work again.
Kinda screwy if you ask me... something that's been sitting here working
for that long then all of a sudden does that...


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Well.thought I would keep everyone posted on my numbers.

As of last weekend, we went from 30 to 45 units off a single aPPo. I
actually have 30 units directly off my head-end aPPo (one of which is
the repeater) and 15 more off the repeater. The latest 15 are all
airBridges. We are pulling about 1.2 Gig per day through the head-end
(500 meg of which is from the repeater clients).


1. I did the bulk update with the latest simpleNMS and changed
RTS/CTS and FRAG to 1496 and 100 on all client units (not head-end).
This was a pretty cool feature. However, twice within 1 day ALLLL my
units lost association and I had to reboot my head-end aPPo to get them
back. So.needless to say, I changed the RTS/FRAG settings back to
default. No problems since.


2. I used simpleDeploy to burn ALL new customers. I then hot
tested them for a minimum of 24 hours prior to deployment with none of
them blinking an eye. Out of the 15 deployed, I have 3 units that are
losing association and not getting it back. I have had the customer do
a power reset by pulling the plug, factory default reset, etc, etc..but
no luck. Oddly enough, one of the 3 units just came back online this
morning with no assistance. Pretty darn flakey! Note: all the units
could be pinged from the wired side and logged into (but DEAD on the
wireless side). Now I am going to go do some climbing and replacing.


Side Note: My head-end aPPo which has been online since Dec 25th 2003 is
going down hill quick. The symptoms are this:


1.      About 3-4 times a week, the unit becomes unresponsive on the
Ethernet side while still passing traffic (hard reboot).

2. The RTS/FRAG thing mentioned above really had me shaking in my
boots (reset to default). 3. I have been working with sB for a while on this flakey aPPo, and
I am now struggling with EC to get a replacement unit before this one
dies.


I think that sB is awesome. They are VERY responsive and have even
phoned me personally to resolve issues. All my units previously
deployed are working wonderfully. 3 out of the latest 15 have not.
That doesn't look good, but I am sure they are getting to the bottom of
it. Maybe it is a bad simpleDeploy release??



Sully





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