I've just been inundated with mailing list email as I haven't been 
able to check email the past couple of days. I was able to download 
the beta firmware and will try it out later today. At least I know 
what the potential risks are after reading a ton of posts. I figure at 
this point, the benefit outweighs the risks..

Try to apply the beta firmware as it has worked successfully for some 
or replace it with another unit while we all wait for the production 
release of the firmware.

No one wants to be viewed as a small customer but lets face it, the 
guy that buys a hundred of anything will get more attention than the 
person that buys just one.

LL

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> NO, but what choice do we have at this point.
>  
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hokenson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re[3]: [smartBridges] Firmware Issue
> 
> 
> Do you really want untested firmware?
>  
> JH
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Scott  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Damron 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Re[3]: [smartBridges] Firmware Issue
> 
> Dang...I guess not many of their customers are important or Key!!!  
That
> is a real SLAP!!!!
>  
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sB Tech Support
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Re[3]: [smartBridges] Firmware Issue
> 
> 
> 
> Sevak,
> 
>  
> 
> The link is at http://www.smartbridges.com/new/support/beta.php . We
> have to get the firmware tested before we release it on the 
respective
> product page. Beta tester will give us a complete feedback to make 
sure
> there are no other issues which we have missed or not able to see 
them
> during our testing. We have new firmware for airBridge and 
airPointPro
> and are currently doing a limited beta release from some of our
> important and key customers and report any problems or bugs if seen 
from
> the field. This is not only to test any issue related to heat, but 
also
> other issues.
> 
>  
> 
> Alex
> 
> sB Tech Support
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sevak Avakians
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:45 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: Re[3]: [smartBridges] Firmware Issue
> 
>  
> 
> SB TECH Support:
> 
> WHERE THE HECK IS THE FIRMWARE UPGRADE AS ANNOUNCED IN THE CUSTOMER
> ADVISORY?!?!  Why is this not on the APPO support pages at
> http://www.smartbridges.com/new/support/app.php ???   Last Firmware
> version in those pages is version 1.4.j.6 of 4 June 2003, not July 
and
> this is listed under airPoint-PRO version 1.50!
> 
> Why is it that under the "Known Issues" in these pages, nothing is
> mentioned about the problems that everyone seems to be having??
> 
> Sevak
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 11:22, Dan Petermann wrote: 
> 
> Temperature affects all electronics to some degree or another. This 
is
> just 
> a guess.
> I suspect that the "bad" Amtel chips are just barely within standard 
> SmartBridge specification
> for that circuit. Once the unit heats up, the timing skews enough 
that
> the 
> input or output
> of the chip is no longer within the timing window. The end result is
> that 
> the data cannot be
> used due to it is not there when the circuit is looking for it.
>  
> Unplugging the unit will cool the chip enough to bring it back into
> spec. 
> for a while.
>  
> I ran into situations like this working for a manufacturer of remote 
> controlled spectrum
> analyzers for cable TV plants (Cheetah Systems). 1 inductor from 1 
> manufacturer on the
> main tuner board was bad. Eliminating that 1 part jumped our output 
by
> 60%. 
> If you measured
> the part it was in spec., once hot it would totally screw up the 
filter 
> response. After this
> incedent ALL of the finished product went thru a 24 hour "burn in"
> period 
> and then was
> recalibrated. The RMA''s dropped to virtually zero.
>  
> Thankfully none of our IC's, FPGA's or processors had this problem.
>  
> Kudo's to the SmartBridge team for finding this. I know it must have
> been a 
> Tylenol moment!
>  
>  
>  
> At 10:07 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hello Dan,
> >
> >So explain why heat is affecting it?  And why the long power down
> >time?
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >Monday, July 21, 2003, 7:18:10 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >DP> If you had read the archives you would have found out that it is
> not
> >DP> "flaky" hardware but a timing issue.
> >DP> Big difference. Amtel changed the specs of the chip and SB had 
to
> change
> >DP> the firmware to compensate.
> >DP> If you have been in the business as long as you say then you 
know
> that 
> >this
> >DP> is possible.
> >
> >DP> Dan Petermann
> >DP> Wyoming.com
> >
> >
> >DP> At 06:36 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >>Hello sB,
> > >>
> > >>This is not the response I want to see or hear about a product 
that
> is
> > >>in my network. "MAGIC" is BS when the customer quits telling me 
they
> > >>are always down.
> > >>
> > >>I don't believe for an instant that "firmware" is fixing an
> > >>overheating issue. I was trained as an Electronics Tech and have 
12
> > >>plus years of fixing electronics to the board level as 
experience.
> > >>Adding some code is not going to change a flaky component. 
Basically
> > >>is the firmware degrading the radio operation to the point the
> > >>component does not overheat?
> > >>
> > >>Fortunately, I only have a few SB products left in the system 
plus
> the ones
> > >>in the junk box.
> > >>
> > >>Barry
> > >>
> > >>Monday, July 21, 2003, 2:05:44 PM, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>sTS> I know this is hard to believe. Sometimes when you try to
> associate to
> > >>sTS> AP that has no WEP enabled, it tell you to check the 
> > authentication and
> > >>sTS> WEP, try do a power cycle the unit or reboot the PC, it may
> work then.
> > >>sTS> It is just a magic trick.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>sTS> Alex
> > >>
> > >>sTS> sB Tech Support
> > >>
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