Eje,

Acutally I should have bought it from you.  I did'ent think.  :(  Sorry
dude.  Next time I will remember!  Pound it into my head.

Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE


> I'm hurt you didn't get the MikroTik stuff from me :(
>
> Hope you didn't end up paying to much in shipping if you got it direct
> from Latvia (I might be a Swede but I am located in Kansas).
>
> Best regards,
>  Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Friday, August 1, 2003, 5:15:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> DB> Boy, I can't wait till my little IDE 64meg Drive comes with my
Mikrotik
> DB> router!
>
> DB> Dennis
>
> DB> ----- Original Message ----- 
> DB> From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> DB> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> DB> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:36 PM
> DB> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE
>
>
> >>
> >> We run a completely open network. There's no MAC lists, and no
> >> validation of the client other than their username and password.
> >>
> >> We do this for several reasons.
> >>
> >> - MAC authentication is a pain in the ass nightmare. Especially
> >>   when you have situations (which I've seen most of them do this)
> >>   where the AirBridge passes it's own MAC address until the client
> >>   turns on their PC, then it passes the NIC MAC address. This is
> >>   usually fine except for when the client wants to plug in their
> >>   laptop.
> >> - WEP encryption is easily crackable, and slows down the connection.
> >> - We wanted to have HotSpot capability, which meant an open network.
> >>
> >> At the office we use MikroTik router software to authenticate clients
> >> through three different methods.
> >>
> >> - HotSpot login
> >> - PPTP for single user situations. (mainly residential)
> >> - PPPoE for multi-user situations. (mainly SOHO and business)
> >>
> >> The only thing identifies them is Username and Password, and we do
> >> limit to just one login per account. So once they are on, nobody can
> >> hijack their connection.
> >>
> >> We chose PPPoE because it's the only login ability available with the
> >> inexpensive little Cable/DSL routers, and it works great. It's not that
> >> it's that secure or anything, but what is. Someone could just as easily
> >> hack a dialup, an e-mail account, a web site login. We aren't that
> >> paranoid, and our customers understand what their getting into.
> >>
> >> Kevin Summers
> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> >> www.kistech.com
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree
Network
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:47 PM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Kevin,
> >> > Forgive the stupid questions here.
> >> >
> >> > What added benefit does the PPPoE provide you?
> >> >
> >> > Does it truly provide another level of authentication that is not as
> >> > easily broken??
> >> >
> >> > Sully
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Summers
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:44 PM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tested PPPoE with MikroTik RouterOS version 2.7.0
> >> >
> >> > Test # 1 - Linksys Cable/DSL Router
> >> >
> >> > - unsuccessful. I plugged the wrong wall wart into it
> >> >   and I think I fried it.
> >> >
> >> > Test # 2 - Efficient Networks Speedstream Cable/DSL Router
> >> >
> >> > - PPPoE Login worked fine
> >> > - Internet access didn't work that great because the router
> >> >   wouldn't accept the subnet mask I gave it for it's WAN
> >> >   interface of 255.255.255.255. It automatically assumed
> >> >   255.0.0.0 because it was a 65.x.x.x address.
> >> >   (now I know why these were only $12 at Fry's...)
> >> >
> >> > Test # 3 - SMC Barricade Cable/DSL Router
> >> >
> >> > - unsuccessful. This unit I think is also fried, but when
> >> >   a manufacturer wants you to use a paperclip and hold it
> >> >   on pins 4 and 9 for up to 30 seconds to reset the device,
> >> >   you are probably better off without it.
> >> >
> >> > Test # 4 - NEW Linksys Cable/DSL Router
> >> >
> >> > - PPPoE login was successful and I was able to get about 768K
> >> >   throughput on it. I'm checking into why it's so slow.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like the problem has been fixed, and PPPoE does indeed
> >> > work fine on the new firmware with MikroTik...
> >> >
> >> > Kevin Summers
> >> > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> >> > www.kistech.com
>
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