Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges as a mesh network?

[George]

That's cool. I've heard a lot of good things about MT. I myself have 
never used them so I can't really comment myself, ecept what other 
peoiple who have been around  these list for a while and know what they 
are doing have said.
My point about Star-Os  as AP's is that a lot of the newer wisp's that 
haven't really had the experience don't understand that the AP is the 
most important piece of equipment in their network. It's critical to 
their business. Loose a cpe radio, you have one customer out of service, 
loose an AP, and your temporarily (hopefully) out of business. Not good 
for anyones reputation.

Some of us have learned the hard way when there really wasn't anything 
else available.
I myself started of using the Nokia 2meg Ap's and then the Teletronics 2 
meg Ap's. Neither of which really could handle much for traffic and at 
best were cheap bridges. Then came along the single board computer with 
ram and a processor, now we have more powerfull computers running more 
complictaed routing schemes and AP functions.
Smart Bridges can't do that on what amounts to a wet 11 board that is no 
diferent than the old Tt AP.
Guess it would be like trying to run XP on a 386.

So my advice is to help educate these young wispersnappers(  hahaha ) so 
they don't end up almost out of business.
And ...
Star-Os also is releasing 5.x this next month as well as a few other 
enhancements.
Either way, my advice for these Smart Bridges people having problems 
with their AP's  is to replace their Smart Bridges Ap's with Star-Os or 
MT  AP's.
I have better than 20 Star-OS AP's and I never have problems with them.
I did however today have to replace a Smartbridge outdoor unit with an 
EZ Bridge . The SmartBridges outdoor unit would only connect at 1meg 
even though the quality was better than 20. Ripped it out and installed 
the EZ bridge, and got 30 for quality and it connected at 11megs and 
stayed there.
My customers prefer getting 3-4 meg download rates and not packet loss.
George

Eje Gustafsson wrote:

lol..

Thanks George. They both work very well. Only reason why I still
"stuck" with MT is because at first the Routerboards didn't support
Star-OS and when I start to play with the MT and wireless I started to
like it a lot and then on top of things you have 5.2-5-3,5.8Ghz
support in MT. So often I end up building 5Ghz backhaul and using
802.11b to do ptmp support from there.
Cleans up 2.4 and leave it for ptmp as well get better speeds so can
easily support 2-4 ptmp APs out there at one location with one
backhaul solution. Last time I heard there where no immediate plans to
get that support in Star-OS.
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G> The point is either way get a REAL AP in there handling your critical  
G> business needs.
G> Both Star-OS and Mt are MATURE AP's designed around routing a wireless 
G> network.
G> Never mind those tiny pieces of plastic cr%$p that everyone other ISP is 
G> having problems with.
G> There, Eje, I gave you a push :)
G> George

G> Eje Gustafsson wrote:

 

Or you can get a MikroTik routerboard with 2 or 3 radio cards in it.

- Eje

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G> Or you can skip the back to back SB's with hub router in the middle and 
G> buy a STAR-OS box with TWO Radio cards and have buit in routing and an 
G> ethernet port for the local customer.
G> Nice thing is it is much higher quality and most likely cheaper, but 
G> more important... YOU WON"T HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEMS!!!!
G> just my opinion.
G> George

G> Jason wrote:



     

Smartbridges may not be an effective solution if you are talking about a
traditional mesh network, but if you insist, you are looking at what is
commonly referred to as two units "back-to-back" meaning what Alex is
saying. However, you need a hub/router/switch to accomplish this and
provide subscriber #1 with access.
To eliminate the hub requirement, you can place two units at each site,
one in client bridge mode connected directly to the user's computer, one
in repeater mode with just power connected.
Jason



    

         

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If subscriber#2 can get the signal from subscriber #1, then 
you can put another access point at subscriber #1 for 
subscriber#2 using client device to associate with.

Main AP-----Subscriber#1----------Subscriber#2
(aPPT)      (aBT & aPPT)            (aBT)
The channel & ESSID will be configured differently for main 
AP to subscriber#1 and Subscriber#1 to subscriber#2.

Hope this help.

Alex
sB Tech Support
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:16 PM
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Subject: [smartBridges] smartBridges as a mesh network?
Opinions wanted, What would be the best way to use the 
smartBridges  products as a mesh network environment?

Per instance say the main AP is the airPoint Pro Total and 
subscriber #1  is 1/2 mile away and can associate with the AP 
no problem.. but subscriber  #2 is 1 mile away and can't get 
signal from the main AP. What would be  the suggested 
smartBrudges unit to use at subscriber #1 location to repeat  
to subscriber #2..? and so on..?

Is it possible to do this and not use a obtrusive antenna on 
subscriber  #1's house?

This is all pretty new to me but I'm ready to play!

Thanks in advance!
Gary Johnson
NightOwl Networks
www.nightowl.net
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