You may be onto something. Could the sB somehow be caching the IP of the downstream unit, even if its off? Therefore, when the downstream unit turns on and it tries to gets an IP from the DHCP server, the cache of the "stayed alive" AirBridge is preventing it from doing so since its IP's don't match it internal IP/MAC cache? (remember the caching AB does)? Just a thought. Crazy though huh? (from what I remember sB stated the cache is refreshed like every 15 minutes or so??
Scott -----Original Message----- From: Sevak Avakians <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 21 Nov 2003 16:37:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > Dear all, > > I wonder if this is the same problem I've experienced and found what > the > issue is (at least in my case). For some reason, if a computer is off > or after DHCP lease time has expired, getting a new DHCP lease from the > wireless network's router is a pain in the @ss. Usually, I either have > customers reboot their computers AND airBridges or if it's too many > customers I just unplug the router and replug it back in. Had the same > problem this morning after exactly 24 days of continuously running > without a hitch since last DHCP lease was given to 3 customers, all 3 > reported problems getting online. Sure enough, their lease had expired > (I've set it to 24 days which is the max) and their computers were not > picking up the new lease. > > I had this problem before with the airBridges, but I set all the > airBridges to static IP and haven't had any issues with those. Always > associated...no problems especially for airBridges connected to > customer > routers with static IPs on the routers, too. > > What do you think? Could this be the same thing you're experiencing? > I'm using Linksys routers. > > Sevak > > On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 16:17, shoffman wrote: > > > Patrick, > > > > As someone plagued with issues on SB equipment over the summer, I > HIGHLY > > recommend you go to 1.08 AND burn in your config (using simpledeploy) > as > > your default setting.. Just doing 1.08 has decrease our troubles by > > about 70%. Going to long Preamble has decreased issues by another > 15%. > > Burning in the config has about made our problems disappear. I DO > ping > > all my units though. > > > > As I stated, this has become a monitoring tool, and I dare not turn > it > > off just to "find out" if problems arise. Only calls we get now are > > from normal network issues (My mail won't work) or from units we have > not > > visited to burn in the default config.. > > > > I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS REMOTE FOR AIRBRIDGED PRODUCTS I can > see > > SB's stance for this on AP's but not for CPE's... let the customer > change > > their settings and burn them in.. its not like the unit has bandwidth > > control or something.. and even if it did, if we see a password > change we > > will just remove its MAC from authorization! SB please reconsider!!! > > > > Scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:58 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > I have not upgraded to 1.08 because I figure what is the point? > There > > > has yet to be a firmware upgrade that hasn't had some sort of an > issue. > > > But anyways, what I have noticed with the airbridges that stop > > > responding, is that they work great for 1-2 months flawlessly, then > all > > > of a sudden, they begin having problems, usually many times a day. > I go > > > to the customer location, upgrade the firmware and we seem to be > good. > > > My biggest complaint is that if the unit is bad, then why doesn't > it > > > have a problem in the beginning. I have not changed the APPO > firmware > > > since day one of installing them so that is not the problem. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Seeni Mohamed > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:28 PM > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The behavior of the airbridge firmware is that when there is no > > > traffic passed for the certain period, the airbridge becomes idle > but > > > the LINK STATUS shows that it is REMAIN associated. Once the > traffic > > > (browsing, ping or any application) is kicked in, then it will wake > up > > > again and start talking to the access point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since watchdog feature firmware continuously monitoring the link > at > > > every 3 minutes interval which will make sure that the LINK STATUS > is > > > up all the times and it is not necessary to run continuous PING to > wake > > > up the unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have done all my best effort to reproduce it here, but I always > > > failed to reproduce it in our LAB setup. The LAB setup done with > > > airbridge 0.01.08 which is connected to the Linksys switch and 3 > more > > > PCs are connected behind the switch, No traffic pass thru and it > was > > > running for about 3 days during the weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > After 3 days, we logged into the unit, can browse and Ping to the > > > gateway without having any power reset. We have tried by manually > power > > > OFF the AP (to check the aB reset) for certain period and then ON > back > > > again and still airbridge passes the traffic again. > > > > > > > > > > > > When you are seeing the Ethernet lockup with our BETA 0.01.08, > can > > > you see the link status is UP or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one interested, please kindly try using the above setup at > > > your LAB and see whether you can able to reproduce it there. If > really > > > an issue, then we also should be able reproduce it here at any > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > We appreciate your feedback on this new beta firmware which is > really > > > helps (making busy) us to identify any root cause of the problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Seeni > > > > > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pascal Losier > > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:50 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > If we all have the problem....... Why does the SBtech team not > having > > > it > > > > > > ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > When the custumer comes in at the PC & try to browse...... Does > it > > > wake > > > > > > the AB up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:29 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I do. I ping everyone's router every 3 minutes and I > > > never > > > > > > have a problem. I use a nice windows tool called smonitor. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far I ping every 30 seconds and that seems to work and yes > from > > > > > > > what I > > > > > > see > > > > > > > you have to ping the client sde router or PC to keep the lan > awake > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > ABO > > > > > > > OR ABI.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Pascal Losier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When running ping to all radio.....Do you ping every second > or > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minute ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does it meen having 100 custumer will need having 100 ping > going > > > > > > > > on..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shoffman > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:03 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blazen Wireless > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only time we have seen this issue is when there is a > > > > > > > > router/switch directly under the AirBridge. What's funny is > that > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > started our continuous pinging of the radio side again, and > the > > > > > > problem has > > > > > > > > disappeared again. Guess these AB's are like ditch diggers, > if > > > you > > > > > > > > watch them continuously (ping or something) then not a > problem. > > > > > > > > Turn your back and trust they are working... they go off to > sleep > > > > > > > > under a tree somewhere... ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:42:46 -0800 > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fidn that if I constant ping everything I don't seem to > have > > > > > > > > > that problem but I have to ping the device on the LAN side > of > > > the > > > > > > > > > ABO and most people have pings turned off but so far (cross > my > > > > > > > > > fingers) the ones I am able to > > > > > > > > > ping have not had any problems this past week.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find this as a problem that needs so more investigation.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:29 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , We've all heard about 1.08 locking up... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a link that was OK with 1.08 but it started working > > > > > > > > > flawlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an APPO at the otherside of the link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I ping the AB wirelessly, it will always respond. > > > > > > > > > If I ping the APPO sitting at the back, it will respond but > > > will > > > > > > > > > stop after a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I search with Airbridge monitor, it will wake up > everything > > > at > > > > > > > > > the back of this bridge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I run simple NMS...... This lockup never happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Smartbridges could not have those lock up when testing, > maybe > > > it > > > > > > > > > is simply because Simple NMS was running somewhere on their > > > > > > > > > network.... (Just a clue). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But those lock up in 1.08 are real. 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