I figured I would receive an answer like this.  Ya...I know the law...but
scratch everything else I said and answer just this question:

Who is going to use them?!?!?!

I see my competitor is not using them as well.

Sully

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 15.org] On Behalf Of Don Castella
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> 
> In the United States, with very few exceptions, the National Electrical
> Code
> applies everywhere. It requires proper antenna grounding, as well as
> overvoltage and overcurrent protection for outside plant (OSP) cable
> systems. In addition, there are specific requirements for OSP Building
> Entrance Protection, including the installation and use of proper
> grounding
> and surge protection equipment. Most building codes require a UL-approved
> primary protector (UL 497) at the building cable entrance. Some states and
> localities may have more stringent requirements, but very few have less
> stringent ones. These codes are in place for two reasons, personal injury
> protection and property protection.
> 
> Ask any experienced fireman about these topics. I'm quite sure you will
> hear
> some harrowing stories.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Austin H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> 
> 
> > What it really becomes, is a question of absolute liability. Sure, you
> might
> > see lightning once every three years. Sure, the chances are one in a
> million
> > that one of your customers will take a hit. The only absolute, in said
> > situation, is that in the case of someones house burning down (etc etc
> etc),
> > you _will_ be held liable. Seventy-five dollars an install... or
> 75million
> > dollars in liability insurance. Brutal judgement call. =\
> >
> > In addition, lightning protection is not the only factor to consider, an
> > external system should always be grounded (in a lot of places it's the
> law).
> >
> > Now on the installers side, sometimes it is bloody impossible to reach a
> > ground within a reasonable distance from the contact point or antenna.
> You
> > need LOS, LOS is on the ne corner of the 22,000 square foot home, ground
> is
> > on the sw corner... crap. In some areas the laws in place would make
> this
> > install an impossibility. Some would say drive a copper ground rod 8ft
> into
> > the ground and tie into that (not recommended, mostly ineffctive). No
> super
> > effective way to do that. Bummer. I feel your pain. =\
> >
> > Austin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree Network
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:23 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> >
> >
> > I have a question for y'all.
> >
> > I can wait to get a hold of a few of these outdoor PoE units for my
> aPPo's.
> > They are on BIGO METAL TOWERS, which are prone to lightning strikes (if
> we
> > had any) and when hit take out all clients (not just one).
> >
> > However, I am in NO hurry to get them in place on my customer installs.
> >
> > I know...I know...plenty of you will be saying, "what if it takes a
> > lightning hit and burns the house down".
> >
> > But truthfully...how many of you are really going to install them??
> >
> > It is hard enough to find a suitable location for an antenna....then run
> the
> > cable all the way around the house to the room where the PC's are.
> Now...I
> > am supposed to run the cable to the location where their earth ground
> is,
> > then run more cable from there all the way to the computer room.  That
> will
> > easily double the amount of cable run per install.
> >
> > And don't even say you are going to pound in your own ground
> stake...cause
> > you wont!  I will at my towers...but not in a client's yard with water
> > lines, gas lines, sewer lines, etc.  NO WAY!  Not to mention the time
> > involved.
> >
> > Recap: to use an outdoor PoE it will extend my average install time from
> 2
> > hours to 3 hours (not including putting in my own ground
> stake)...driving
> > the cost per install up by $50-75 per install.
> >
> > I don't know...I just don't think it is worth it.  But then again...I
> live
> > in an area where I have only seen lightning (way up in the clouds) once
> in
> > the 1.5 years I have been here.
> >
> > Sully
> 
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