Every install we do is done to NEC standards. JH ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> I figured I would receive an answer like this. Ya...I know the law...but > scratch everything else I said and answer just this question: > > Who is going to use them?!?!?! > > I see my competitor is not using them as well. > > Sully > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 15.org] On Behalf Of Don Castella > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll > > > > In the United States, with very few exceptions, the National Electrical > > Code > > applies everywhere. It requires proper antenna grounding, as well as > > overvoltage and overcurrent protection for outside plant (OSP) cable > > systems. In addition, there are specific requirements for OSP Building > > Entrance Protection, including the installation and use of proper > > grounding > > and surge protection equipment. Most building codes require a UL-approved > > primary protector (UL 497) at the building cable entrance. Some states and > > localities may have more stringent requirements, but very few have less > > stringent ones. These codes are in place for two reasons, personal injury > > protection and property protection. > > > > Ask any experienced fireman about these topics. I'm quite sure you will > > hear > > some harrowing stories. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Austin H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll > > > > > > > What it really becomes, is a question of absolute liability. Sure, you > > might > > > see lightning once every three years. Sure, the chances are one in a > > million > > > that one of your customers will take a hit. The only absolute, in said > > > situation, is that in the case of someones house burning down (etc etc > > etc), > > > you _will_ be held liable. Seventy-five dollars an install... or > > 75million > > > dollars in liability insurance. Brutal judgement call. =\ > > > > > > In addition, lightning protection is not the only factor to consider, an > > > external system should always be grounded (in a lot of places it's the > > law). > > > > > > Now on the installers side, sometimes it is bloody impossible to reach a > > > ground within a reasonable distance from the contact point or antenna. > > You > > > need LOS, LOS is on the ne corner of the 22,000 square foot home, ground > > is > > > on the sw corner... crap. In some areas the laws in place would make > > this > > > install an impossibility. Some would say drive a copper ground rod 8ft > > into > > > the ground and tie into that (not recommended, mostly ineffctive). No > > super > > > effective way to do that. Bummer. I feel your pain. =\ > > > > > > Austin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree Network > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:23 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll > > > > > > > > > I have a question for y'all. > > > > > > I can wait to get a hold of a few of these outdoor PoE units for my > > aPPo's. > > > They are on BIGO METAL TOWERS, which are prone to lightning strikes (if > > we > > > had any) and when hit take out all clients (not just one). > > > > > > However, I am in NO hurry to get them in place on my customer installs. > > > > > > I know...I know...plenty of you will be saying, "what if it takes a > > > lightning hit and burns the house down". > > > > > > But truthfully...how many of you are really going to install them?? > > > > > > It is hard enough to find a suitable location for an antenna....then run > > the > > > cable all the way around the house to the room where the PC's are. > > Now...I > > > am supposed to run the cable to the location where their earth ground > > is, > > > then run more cable from there all the way to the computer room. That > > will > > > easily double the amount of cable run per install. > > > > > > And don't even say you are going to pound in your own ground > > stake...cause > > > you wont! I will at my towers...but not in a client's yard with water > > > lines, gas lines, sewer lines, etc. NO WAY! Not to mention the time > > > involved. > > > > > > Recap: to use an outdoor PoE it will extend my average install time from > > 2 > > > hours to 3 hours (not including putting in my own ground > > stake)...driving > > > the cost per install up by $50-75 per install. > > > > > > I don't know...I just don't think it is worth it. But then again...I > > live > > > in an area where I have only seen lightning (way up in the clouds) once > > in > > > the 1.5 years I have been here. > > > > > > Sully > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
