On the indoor units, see below:
    http://www.vircom.net/pictures/res-install/res-install.htm

Out door units, we use a Motorola Canopy entrance protector where the cat5
enters the building, and use the ground stud on that to attach to the
antenna ground, and from there to the building ground.

JH
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll


> How were you doing that with sB products in the past?
>
> Sully
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 15.org] On Behalf Of John Hokenson
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:07 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> >
> > Every install we do is done to NEC standards.
> >
> > JH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> >
> >
> > > I figured I would receive an answer like this.  Ya...I know the
> > law...but
> > > scratch everything else I said and answer just this question:
> > >
> > > Who is going to use them?!?!?!
> > >
> > > I see my competitor is not using them as well.
> > >
> > > Sully
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 15.org] On Behalf Of Don Castella
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > > >
> > > > In the United States, with very few exceptions, the National
> > Electrical
> > > > Code
> > > > applies everywhere. It requires proper antenna grounding, as well as
> > > > overvoltage and overcurrent protection for outside plant (OSP) cable
> > > > systems. In addition, there are specific requirements for OSP
Building
> > > > Entrance Protection, including the installation and use of proper
> > > > grounding
> > > > and surge protection equipment. Most building codes require a
> > UL-approved
> > > > primary protector (UL 497) at the building cable entrance. Some
states
> > and
> > > > localities may have more stringent requirements, but very few have
> > less
> > > > stringent ones. These codes are in place for two reasons, personal
> > injury
> > > > protection and property protection.
> > > >
> > > > Ask any experienced fireman about these topics. I'm quite sure you
> > will
> > > > hear
> > > > some harrowing stories.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Austin H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > What it really becomes, is a question of absolute liability. Sure,
> > you
> > > > might
> > > > > see lightning once every three years. Sure, the chances are one in
a
> > > > million
> > > > > that one of your customers will take a hit. The only absolute, in
> > said
> > > > > situation, is that in the case of someones house burning down (etc
> > etc
> > > > etc),
> > > > > you _will_ be held liable. Seventy-five dollars an install... or
> > > > 75million
> > > > > dollars in liability insurance. Brutal judgement call. =\
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, lightning protection is not the only factor to
> > consider,
> > an
> > > > > external system should always be grounded (in a lot of places it's
> > the
> > > > law).
> > > > >
> > > > > Now on the installers side, sometimes it is bloody impossible to
> > reach
> > a
> > > > > ground within a reasonable distance from the contact point or
> > antenna.
> > > > You
> > > > > need LOS, LOS is on the ne corner of the 22,000 square foot home,
> > ground
> > > > is
> > > > > on the sw corner... crap. In some areas the laws in place would
make
> > > > this
> > > > > install an impossibility. Some would say drive a copper ground rod
> > 8ft
> > > > into
> > > > > the ground and tie into that (not recommended, mostly ineffctive).
> > No
> > > > super
> > > > > effective way to do that. Bummer. I feel your pain. =\
> > > > >
> > > > > Austin
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree
> > Network
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:23 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a question for y'all.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can wait to get a hold of a few of these outdoor PoE units for
my
> > > > aPPo's.
> > > > > They are on BIGO METAL TOWERS, which are prone to lightning
strikes
> > (if
> > > > we
> > > > > had any) and when hit take out all clients (not just one).
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I am in NO hurry to get them in place on my customer
> > installs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know...I know...plenty of you will be saying, "what if it takes
a
> > > > > lightning hit and burns the house down".
> > > > >
> > > > > But truthfully...how many of you are really going to install
them??
> > > > >
> > > > > It is hard enough to find a suitable location for an
antenna....then
> > run
> > > > the
> > > > > cable all the way around the house to the room where the PC's are.
> > > > Now...I
> > > > > am supposed to run the cable to the location where their earth
> > ground
> > > > is,
> > > > > then run more cable from there all the way to the computer room.
> > That
> > > > will
> > > > > easily double the amount of cable run per install.
> > > > >
> > > > > And don't even say you are going to pound in your own ground
> > > > stake...cause
> > > > > you wont!  I will at my towers...but not in a client's yard with
> > water
> > > > > lines, gas lines, sewer lines, etc.  NO WAY!  Not to mention the
> > time
> > > > > involved.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recap: to use an outdoor PoE it will extend my average install
time
> > from
> > > > 2
> > > > > hours to 3 hours (not including putting in my own ground
> > > > stake)...driving
> > > > > the cost per install up by $50-75 per install.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know...I just don't think it is worth it.  But then
> > again...I
> > > > live
> > > > > in an area where I have only seen lightning (way up in the clouds)
> > once
> > > > in
> > > > > the 1.5 years I have been here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sully
> > > >
> > > >
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