The more of the prosecution's case I hear (remember, the defense isn't allowed to present evidence, only cross-examine---this is *ALL* the prosecution's case that took place yesterday) the more I think he's innocent.
Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:10 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stopped....is that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she > herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that > matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we > shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? > > Charles Mims > http://www.the-sandbox.org > <http://www.the-sandbox.org/> > > > > _____ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jen -- > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM > To: The Sandbox Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephanie <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM > Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no > clear to him how could he be expected to know? > Stephi > > -------Original Message------- > > From: The Sandbox Discussion > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM > To: 'The Sandbox Discussion > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List' > Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > Maybe she had sex after Kobe. > > > David L. > > Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As > nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM > To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' > Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > On the stand in testimony... > 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her > panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the > hospital. > 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that > is true, why was she still wearing the panties > Ugggghhh) > 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear > she said no. > > Charles Mims > http://www.the-sandbox.org > <http://www.the-sandbox.org/> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > ________________________________ > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, > digest) can be made by going > to > http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net > > > ________________________________ > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, > digest) can be made by going to > http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net ===== I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ________________________________ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net ________________________________ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net ________________________________ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net ________________________________ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
