Interface definition is certainly the largest chunk, but WSDL is
extensible, allowing rich descriptions to be added to the core. While the
core specification "doesn't provide complete information for technically correct use
of the
web service", such information could be easily added to WSDL.
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Not exactly. IDL doesn't tell you how to talk to a service. IDL contains
only the type information. WSDL says you what transport protocol you have
to
use, how to 'bind' SOAP to this transport protocol, etc.
Radovan
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From: "Frank Sauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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in other words, a verbose IDL :-)
Frank
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Gary,
Okay. Perhaps I am overstating things a little bit. WSDL doesn't
describe semantic information. It doesn't describe application
semantics (e.g., you must call "open" before "action"). It doesn't
describe business semantics (payment terms, service level agreements,
etc.). It doesn't describe security, routing, and transaction
semantics (although it may describe how to represent security,
routing and transaction information in the header).
But WSDL does tell you everything you need to know to construct a
SOAP message and send it to its target. And it does so in a
machine-readable format so that a tool can generate the code
necessary to make it happen.
Best regards,
Anne
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> From: Gary Feldman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> ...
> > A WSDL file provides a complete technical description of your
> > web service. It describes
>
> Let's not overstate things. It provides enough information to
> generate proxy signatures. It doesn't provide complete
> information for technically correct use of the web service.
>
> For example, as far as I know it doesn't have any
> formal mechanism for specifying constraints in order of
> method invocation. Thus there is no way I know to formally
> specify, in WSDL, that you must invoke the "open"
> method before invoking the "action" method. Granted, with
> these particular names, it's obvious, but there are other
> more complicated situations that may not be. Another example
> is complex constraints on argument values.
>
> Perhaps someone more familiar can correct me if this is wrong.
>
> Gary
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