On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Jim Monaco wrote: >Other than the ability to store models at the PC or handheld and share them >electronically, what good would a PC GUI be? Do we actually think that you >could set the parameters without actually seeing the effect on the control >surfaces (and the flying)? It seems to me that the geometry of all the >linkages and the mounting of the servos makes it impractical to sit at a >screen and get the desired results. As Mike L. said in another post, you >would need detailed configuration data about the airplane and linkages to >determine throws appropriately. I suppose you could do some screen thing >that shows how the servos wiggle with different mixes and that might help >learning to program, but it doesn't seem much more useful than sitting with >the radio and the plane on and seeing what happens...
You have several good points here. Is there a way with any radio to have PC input = radio output? Or more interestingly: can you "demonstrate" proper control while in "buddy box" mode, have the computer parse the input, then store it on both the Tx and hard drive? In other words, 1: pull rudder hard right, ailerons 4% left with sticks. 2: Tell computer "This is launch mode on Model 3". 3: Upload that launch mode to Flash ROM. >I would like to see a PC interface to store models from the Stylus card to >the hard drive and vice versa though. The irritating thing here is that I can't afford (and don't have any real use for) a radio of the caliber we're talking about. Unless someone knows something I don't about where to get them less expensively? -J > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tripp Meister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 12:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: Craig Burton; RCSE >Subject: RE: [RCSE] You gotta REALLY wanna do this!!! > >They already provide a way to get data in and out of the MPX TX so >there's nothing new here just the documentation, which they already >have. It's as simple of pulling it out the specification and cutting >out all but the format of the memory registers. > >Here's the issue, myself and a couple others on the list are willing to >write new good software for no cost to the manufacturer the only thing >that will really happen is give perspective customers 1 more reason to >buy the TX (1 more feature). > >Maybe with Hitec's acquisition we migth be able to get some movement on >documentation. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:33 AM >To: Tripp Meister >Cc: Craig Burton; RCSE > >Think about the cost of just documenting and publishing the information >for the data stored in the TX. Remember that these guys have to write >software in a pretty restrictive environment. To keep the cost down, you >don't go overboard on memory and processor power. The copying feature >is just designed to copy the contents of the configuration from one >place to the next. If you are in a restrictive environment, that just >means copying the data. You don't spend the time of making it portable >from one TX model to a new TX model. It's not like there are a few >million of us to spread the engineering cost. > >Tripp Meister wrote: >> Honestly, I wanted to write the software for myself. If other wanted >> to use it, I would always suggest testing the configuration completely > >> for your self (that whole bug in software stuff we all know so much >about). >> >> You'd think MPX, JR, Airtronics, and Futaba would want to let people >> to write to the interface without reverse engineering the data stream. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Craig Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 3:09 PM >> To: RCSE >> Cc: Tripp Meister >> >> I've had the same problem with the JR serial interface - there is no >> API available from JR and the company that wrote "DataSafe" for JR is >> not talking. >> >> Without a well-documented API, developing PC-based solutions is >> difficult from an engineering perspective (but a fun challenge). But, > >> then, what about the human 'challenge': how do you get your friends >> to trust in your software enough to use it to load their Tx for their >> $500+ aircraft... >> that's probably even more difficult than writing the software in the >> first place. ;) >> > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that >subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with >MIME turned off. > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
