Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote:
> Am Freitag, 13. August 2010 09:27:16 schrieb Marc Kleine-Budde:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote:
>>> Am Mittwoch, 11. August 2010 17:59:17 schrieb Marc Kleine-Budde:
>>>> Bit timing parameters for flexcan with 24.576000 MHz ref clock
>>>> nominal                                 real Bitrt   nom  real SampP
>>>> Bitrate TQ[ns] PrS PhS1 PhS2 SJW BRP Bitrate Error SampP SampP
>>>>  Error   CAN_CTRL 1000000     40   8    8    8   1   1  983040  1.7%
>>>> 75.0% 68.0%  9.3% 0x003f0007 1000000     81   4    4    3   1   2
>>>> 1024000  2.4% 75.0% 75.0%  0.0% 0x011a0003 1000000    122   2    3    2 
>>>>  1   3 1024000  2.4% 75.0% 75.0%  0.0% 0x02110001
>>> I was not aware that the clock is  24.576000 MHz, always thought
>>> 24.000000.
>> The passage from the Datasheet you quoted said it's running at 24.576000
>>  MHz
> 
> :-(
> 
>>> It is often the case that the crystal clock is chosen to get a perfect
>>> bit rate for UARTS, not for CAN. But a UART frame, having only 10 bits,
>>> can live with a much higher deviation from the nominal bit clock.
>>>
>>> I see that you typical use a sample point at 75%.
>>> CANopen has a "Recommended location of sample point" at 87.5%. (CiA 301).
>> I don't have access to the standard, but [1] lists a sample point of 75%
>> for 1000 kbit/s and 80% for 800 kbit/s. All slower bitrates have the
>> 87.5% sample point.
>>
>> cheers, Marc
>>
>> [1] www.can-cia.org/fileadmin/cia/files/icc/9/koppe.pdf
> It's from 2003
> I hope the list will accept small pictures. 
> From CiA301   Version 4.1, 11. April 2007

Ohhh...they should publish their specs!

Wolfgang should we update our recommanded values?

Heinz-Jürgen, from a "real" CAN-guy point of view: If the bitrate cannot
be set exactly to e.g. 1000 Mbit/s, is it better to have a slighter
lower or higher bitrate?

cheers, Marc

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