signed ... crossing fingers.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Signed, > > And i sincerely hope that something comes out of this. > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Eugen Sares <sof...@mail.sprit.org>wrote: > >> Of course! The point is, it seems to be unclear to the management (and >> probably everybody else) how many users actually want this. >> I heard quite a few complaints about this, so I might not even the only >> fool... ; ) >> >> But it can only work if everbody thinks simply for himself - could I need >> this? If yes, sign it. >> No probability scenarios should be put into that simple calculation. >> >> By the way: I would see it as a success if at least a handful of bugs >> would get fixed. >> >> >> Am 29.07.2013 11:45, schrieb Angus Davidson: >> >> Oh I do. I do wish you the best of luck ;) Just never had a commercial >>> company ever take a petition seriously. If it doesn't seriously affect >>> the >>> bottom line its just not relevant. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2013/07/29 11:34 AM, "Eugen Sares" <sof...@mail.sprit.org> wrote: >>> >>> That depends on how many people utter their interest in this. >>>> Hope you see the dependancy-cycle... >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 29.07.2013 11:25, schrieb Angus Davidson: >>>> >>>>> Hi Eugen >>>>> >>>>> Whilst I respect your enthusiasm I unfortunately suspect I will get my >>>>> Mac >>>>> Softimage version before any upgrade to the nurbs tools happen. ;( >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Angus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2013/07/29 11:18 AM, "Eugen Sares" <sof...@mail.sprit.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear respected members of this community, >>>>>> since I am confident that progress on NURBS tools and SDK would be >>>>>> beneficial for a relevant part of the Softimage userbase, and it seems >>>>>> to be useless to just ask in the beta, I'm starting this petition: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.change.org/**petitions/autodesk-softimage-** >>>>>> management-improve-nu<http://www.change.org/petitions/autodesk-softimage-management-improve-nu> >>>>>> rb >>>>>> s >>>>>> >>>>>> ... for which I kindly ask support from anybody that sees an advantage >>>>>> in this! >>>>>> Thanks a lot!! >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Eugen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the text I put on that change.org page: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Working with NURBS is still awkward due to a number of bugs and >>>>>> restrictions in Softimage and it's SDK. >>>>>> Since NURBS are and will continue to be a viable geometry type useful >>>>>> for many worflows, they should be subject to an upgrade, which last >>>>>> happened in version 5.0, about 8 years ago! >>>>>> >>>>>> Improvement list, sorted by importance: >>>>>> - fix NURBS related bugs as has been reported in the beta, >>>>>> - support subcurves and subsurfaces in SDK and existing tools - as >>>>>> consistently as polygon islands, >>>>>> - improve the operator SDK, to allow seamless integration of custom >>>>>> tools, including NURBS, >>>>>> - add support for NURBS in ICE Modeling, >>>>>> - add new NURBS tools (once a fully capable SDK is provided, this can >>>>>> be >>>>>> done by 3rd parties also), >>>>>> - ideally, introduce T-Spline technology (owned by Autodesk). >>>>>> >>>>>> Affected areas: >>>>>> - curve to polygon modeling, like 3D text, logos, mechanical parts, >>>>>> floorplans, cross-sections, spline cages,... >>>>>> - ICE based procedural modeling and rigging approaches for more >>>>>> complex >>>>>> animations and visualizations, >>>>>> - better import/editing/modeling of technical geometry like cars, >>>>>> design >>>>>> objects,... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To Cory Mogk - >>>>>> Why NURBS should be improved: >>>>>> First, Softimage users should not be forced to switch to other >>>>>> applications just for basic curve/surface modeling. >>>>>> Curves in particular, as they represent 2D-geometry, will always be >>>>>> fundamental in 3D graphics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Second, ICE support for NURBS would lay the foundation for new >>>>>> procedural modeling/rigging workflows that would make Softimage >>>>>> competitive in that field. >>>>>> >>>>>> Understandably, the Softimage developers are under time and monetarian >>>>>> restictions, so only high priority features get realized, mostly >>>>>> introcuded by bigger studios, and often behind 'closed doors'. >>>>>> Yet those studios rarely request any NURBS features. The reason might >>>>>> not even be that better NURBS would be useless to them, but because >>>>>> they >>>>>> mostly can choose from a wider variety of tools, and often stick to >>>>>> internal proven workflows. >>>>>> Yet the other huge part of the userbase, small studios/freelancers, >>>>>> would profit directly from better NURBS, but easily go unnoticed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Polygon modeling based on curves is an important and reasonable >>>>>> complement to the already good modeling tools in Softimage, but is >>>>>> still >>>>>> unnecessarily complicated and restricted, and this petition is meant >>>>>> to >>>>>> show that the interest is there. >>>>>> So please improve NURBS again and thus boost Softimage's usability in >>>>>> that area a great deal! >>>>>> Thank you!" >>>>>> >>>>>> <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" >>>>> style="width:100%;"> >>>>> <tr> >>>>> <td align="left" style="text-align:justify;"><**font >>>>> face="arial,sans-serif" size="1" color="#999999"><span >>>>> style="font-size:11px;">This communication is intended for the >>>>> addressee >>>>> only. 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