Signed, good luck ;)
On 1 August 2013 12:55, Eugen Sares <sof...@mail.sprit.org> wrote: > I'm giving this one more bump, so maybe there's one or the other willing > to support this, too. So far it's 50. > > Before any of you "major" users start stomping the "minor" ones into the > ground with the usual argument that ANYthing else is more important, let me > add: > this is also about a better operator SDK, which is still a major handicap > to add any modeling (including NURBS) tools. > This would also cater to the big studios, I am sure. > Cheers! > > > Am 30.07.2013 20:18, schrieb Stephen Davidson: > > signed ... crossing fingers. > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Signed, >> >> And i sincerely hope that something comes out of this. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Eugen Sares <sof...@mail.sprit.org>wrote: >> >>> Of course! The point is, it seems to be unclear to the management (and >>> probably everybody else) how many users actually want this. >>> I heard quite a few complaints about this, so I might not even the only >>> fool... ; ) >>> >>> But it can only work if everbody thinks simply for himself - could I >>> need this? If yes, sign it. >>> No probability scenarios should be put into that simple calculation. >>> >>> By the way: I would see it as a success if at least a handful of bugs >>> would get fixed. >>> >>> >>> Am 29.07.2013 11:45, schrieb Angus Davidson: >>> >>> Oh I do. I do wish you the best of luck ;) Just never had a commercial >>>> company ever take a petition seriously. If it doesn't seriously affect >>>> the >>>> bottom line its just not relevant. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013/07/29 11:34 AM, "Eugen Sares" <sof...@mail.sprit.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> That depends on how many people utter their interest in this. >>>>> Hope you see the dependancy-cycle... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 29.07.2013 11:25, schrieb Angus Davidson: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eugen >>>>>> >>>>>> Whilst I respect your enthusiasm I unfortunately suspect I will get my >>>>>> Mac >>>>>> Softimage version before any upgrade to the nurbs tools happen. ;( >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Angus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013/07/29 11:18 AM, "Eugen Sares" <sof...@mail.sprit.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear respected members of this community, >>>>>>> since I am confident that progress on NURBS tools and SDK would be >>>>>>> beneficial for a relevant part of the Softimage userbase, and it >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>> to be useless to just ask in the beta, I'm starting this petition: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.change.org/petitions/autodesk-softimage-management-improve-nu >>>>>>> rb >>>>>>> s >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... for which I kindly ask support from anybody that sees an >>>>>>> advantage >>>>>>> in this! >>>>>>> Thanks a lot!! >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Eugen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the text I put on that change.org page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Working with NURBS is still awkward due to a number of bugs and >>>>>>> restrictions in Softimage and it's SDK. >>>>>>> Since NURBS are and will continue to be a viable geometry type useful >>>>>>> for many worflows, they should be subject to an upgrade, which last >>>>>>> happened in version 5.0, about 8 years ago! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Improvement list, sorted by importance: >>>>>>> - fix NURBS related bugs as has been reported in the beta, >>>>>>> - support subcurves and subsurfaces in SDK and existing tools - as >>>>>>> consistently as polygon islands, >>>>>>> - improve the operator SDK, to allow seamless integration of custom >>>>>>> tools, including NURBS, >>>>>>> - add support for NURBS in ICE Modeling, >>>>>>> - add new NURBS tools (once a fully capable SDK is provided, this can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> done by 3rd parties also), >>>>>>> - ideally, introduce T-Spline technology (owned by Autodesk). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Affected areas: >>>>>>> - curve to polygon modeling, like 3D text, logos, mechanical parts, >>>>>>> floorplans, cross-sections, spline cages,... >>>>>>> - ICE based procedural modeling and rigging approaches for more >>>>>>> complex >>>>>>> animations and visualizations, >>>>>>> - better import/editing/modeling of technical geometry like cars, >>>>>>> design >>>>>>> objects,... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Cory Mogk - >>>>>>> Why NURBS should be improved: >>>>>>> First, Softimage users should not be forced to switch to other >>>>>>> applications just for basic curve/surface modeling. >>>>>>> Curves in particular, as they represent 2D-geometry, will always be >>>>>>> fundamental in 3D graphics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Second, ICE support for NURBS would lay the foundation for new >>>>>>> procedural modeling/rigging workflows that would make Softimage >>>>>>> competitive in that field. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Understandably, the Softimage developers are under time and >>>>>>> monetarian >>>>>>> restictions, so only high priority features get realized, mostly >>>>>>> introcuded by bigger studios, and often behind 'closed doors'. >>>>>>> Yet those studios rarely request any NURBS features. The reason might >>>>>>> not even be that better NURBS would be useless to them, but because >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> mostly can choose from a wider variety of tools, and often stick to >>>>>>> internal proven workflows. >>>>>>> Yet the other huge part of the userbase, small studios/freelancers, >>>>>>> would profit directly from better NURBS, but easily go unnoticed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Polygon modeling based on curves is an important and reasonable >>>>>>> complement to the already good modeling tools in Softimage, but is >>>>>>> still >>>>>>> unnecessarily complicated and restricted, and this petition is meant >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> show that the interest is there. >>>>>>> So please improve NURBS again and thus boost Softimage's usability in >>>>>>> that area a great deal! >>>>>>> Thank you!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" >>>>>> style="width:100%;"> >>>>>> <tr> >>>>>> <td align="left" style="text-align:justify;"><font >>>>>> face="arial,sans-serif" size="1" color="#999999"><span >>>>>> style="font-size:11px;">This communication is intended for the >>>>>> addressee >>>>>> only. 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