I meant "wherever the decision makers are now.." or course. Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com
On 31 Jul 2013, at 09:24, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote: > I could safely say that since the acquisition it has been a downhill > experience and I can only think on blaming AD management, whoever the > decision makers are now let's make sure we keep an eye on them as it is very > likely they will f*ck everything else they touch. > > Strategic thinking only, nothing personal. > > Jordi Bares > jordiba...@gmail.com > > On 31 Jul 2013, at 07:49, Raffaele Fragapane <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> Last time I heard a definite figure it was 12, later on I heard a >> not-as-reliable 14. >> I'd say between 10-15 actual developers sounds like the realistic ballpark >> (without management etc). >> >> Don't think Maya has hundreds though :) >> >> I think currently one of the largest, if not the largest, permanently >> staffed (so exclude temp contractors and third parties) might actually be >> C4D's. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com> >> wrote: >> Exactly how many developers Softimage really has? >> >> >> >> I doubt if Mudbox will be implemented in Maya, but who knows what AD is >> planning. It is sure the Softimage is not on their hot topic list. >> >> >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Greg Punchatz >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:23 AM >> To: Softimage List >> Subject: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! >> >> >> >> As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes at at >> AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others) the more and more angry I >> get. And frankly the more I want my support money back, seriously. >> >> This has been a huge bait and switch scam.... I feel like I have been >> consistently lied to about the future of Soft, there is even a video of a >> "product manager of the week" telling me the future of Softimage is good on >> the Autodesk site. Buyers remorse is one thing, but frankly no one has been >> honest with us about where all of this was headed, in fact I would say that >> I was deliberately lied to by the PR machine that is AD. The video of Daniel >> Tutino talking about the future of softimage is a prime example of AD >> misleading us. What's sad if you watch the video, he is acting like a >> really bad liar . ( I have the video downloaded just in case I need it to >> back up my case against AD.) >> >> First off I wish I would have NEVER bought a suite... I did not want a >> single dollar of mine going to support Maya, but apparently if you jumped on >> the suite bandwagon your money went toward a bazzilion Maya developers, >> even if you checked "softimage is my main interest" in the AD suite >> surveys. I wanted a Softimage branded suite for that very reason. Now from >> what I gather soft has less developers than my hand has fingers, and Maya >> has over a hundred?? WTF are all those developers working on, really? 100 >> devs working under the bad management of AD guys cant even compete with 15 >> devs working at an under funded Softimage run by Avid . >> >> I am also hugely disappointed in Mudbox... The only thing I ended up using >> in the whole suite is SOFTIMAGE.. Zbrush and Mari got my personal dollars >> because they delivered while AD promised. Now Luc Eric is all but saying >> Mudbox is going into Maya on Softimage forums.... Do the powers that be at >> AD still think putting everything into one app makes sense?? There is a >> reason why niche products do a better job at niche work :) >> >> I would be happy with if AD made an attempt at a next gen app, I would give >> that a shot....but I passed on Maya for a reason. >> >> I paid my support so Softimage could be developed further....not so AD could >> put a nail in its coffin. >> >> Feeling like I just got robbed... is there something we can do as a group to >> get our voices heard? Anyone know any good lawyers that will work for next >> years support money ;) >> >> -- >> >> Greg Punchatz >> >> Sr. Creative Director >> Janimation >> 214.823.7760 >> www.janimation.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and >> let them flee like the dogs they are! >