I meant "wherever the decision makers are now.." or course.

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com

On 31 Jul 2013, at 09:24, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I could safely say that since the acquisition it has been a downhill 
> experience and I can only think on blaming AD management, whoever the 
> decision makers are now let's make sure we keep an eye on them as it is very 
> likely they will f*ck everything else they touch.
> 
> Strategic thinking only, nothing personal.
> 
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
> 
> On 31 Jul 2013, at 07:49, Raffaele Fragapane <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Last time I heard a definite figure it was 12, later on I heard a 
>> not-as-reliable 14.
>> I'd say between 10-15 actual developers sounds like the realistic ballpark 
>> (without management etc).
>> 
>> Don't think Maya has hundreds though :)
>> 
>> I think currently one of the largest, if not the largest, permanently 
>> staffed (so exclude temp contractors and third parties) might actually be 
>> C4D's.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Exactly how many developers Softimage really has?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I doubt if Mudbox will be implemented in Maya, but who knows what AD is 
>> planning. It is sure the Softimage is not on their hot topic list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Greg Punchatz
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:23 AM
>> To: Softimage List
>> Subject: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes at at 
>> AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others) the more and more angry I 
>> get.  And frankly the more I want my support money back, seriously.
>> 
>> This has been a huge bait and switch scam....  I feel like I have been 
>> consistently lied to about the future of Soft, there is even a video of a 
>> "product manager of the week"  telling me the future of Softimage is good on 
>> the Autodesk site.  Buyers remorse is one thing, but frankly no one has been 
>> honest with us about where all of this was headed, in fact I would say that 
>> I was deliberately lied to by the PR machine that is AD. The video of Daniel 
>> Tutino talking about the future of softimage is a prime example of AD 
>> misleading us. What's  sad if you watch the video, he is acting like a 
>> really bad liar .  ( I have the video downloaded just in case I need it to 
>> back up my case against AD.)
>> 
>>  First off I wish I would have NEVER bought a suite... I did not want a 
>> single dollar of mine going to support Maya, but apparently if you jumped on 
>> the suite bandwagon your money went toward a bazzilion Maya developers,  
>> even if you checked "softimage is my main interest"  in the AD suite 
>> surveys.  I wanted a Softimage branded suite for that very reason.  Now from 
>> what I gather soft has less developers than my hand has fingers, and Maya 
>> has over a hundred??  WTF are all those developers working on, really? 100 
>> devs working under the bad management of AD guys cant even compete with 15 
>> devs working at an under funded Softimage run by Avid . 
>> 
>>  I am also hugely disappointed in Mudbox... The only thing I ended up using 
>> in the whole suite is SOFTIMAGE.. Zbrush and Mari got my personal dollars 
>> because they delivered while AD promised.  Now Luc Eric is all but saying 
>> Mudbox is going into Maya on Softimage forums.... Do the powers that be at 
>> AD still think putting everything into one app makes sense?? There is a 
>> reason why niche products do a better job at niche work :)
>> 
>> I would be happy with if AD made an attempt at a next gen app, I would give 
>> that a shot....but I passed on Maya for a reason.  
>> 
>> I paid my support so Softimage could be developed further....not so AD could 
>> put a nail in its coffin.
>> 
>> Feeling like I just got robbed... is there something we can do as a group to 
>> get our voices heard?  Anyone know any good lawyers that will work for next 
>> years support money ;)
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Greg Punchatz
>> 
>> Sr. Creative Director
>> Janimation
>> 214.823.7760
>> www.janimation.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and 
>> let them flee like the dogs they are!
> 

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