"get busy living or get busy dying" see you guys in Zihuatanejo
On 31 July 2013 21:37, Daniel Brassard <dbrassar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Madness???? > This is Sparta! *[kicks the AD messenger into the deep well]* > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Sebastien Sterling < > sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://area.autodesk.com/mayaleapplugin >> >> >> Meanwile ! Yay ! Warning ! its like a sick parody of kinect for maya so >> not for the faint hearted !, i wonder if any user money went into this, or >> if some resourceful little dude just cooked it up by himself? >> >> "Give your users the ability to imagine, design, and create in true 3D >> space." >> >> >> On 31 July 2013 17:23, Tim Crowson <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>wrote: >> >>> This thread is simultaneously awesome and horrendous. I need >>> anti-depressants.... >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/31/2013 3:27 AM, Jordi Bares wrote: >>> >>> I meant "wherever the decision makers are now.." or course. >>> >>> Jordi Bares >>> jordiba...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2013, at 09:24, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I could safely say that since the acquisition it has been a downhill >>> experience and I can only think on blaming AD management, whoever the >>> decision makers are now let's make sure we keep an eye on them as it is >>> very likely they will f*ck everything else they touch. >>> >>> Strategic thinking only, nothing personal. >>> >>> Jordi Bares >>> jordiba...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2013, at 07:49, Raffaele Fragapane < >>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Last time I heard a definite figure it was 12, later on I heard a >>> not-as-reliable 14. >>> I'd say between 10-15 actual developers sounds like the realistic >>> ballpark (without management etc). >>> >>> Don't think Maya has hundreds though :) >>> >>> I think currently one of the largest, if not the largest, permanently >>> staffed (so exclude temp contractors and third parties) might actually be >>> C4D's. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy >>> <szabol...@crytek.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Exactly how many developers Softimage really has? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I doubt if Mudbox will be implemented in Maya, but who knows what AD is >>>> planning. It is sure the Softimage is not on their hot topic list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Punchatz >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:23 AM >>>> *To:* Softimage List >>>> *Subject:* Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my >>>> moneyback! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes >>>> at at AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others) the more and more >>>> angry I get. And frankly the more I want my support money back, seriously. >>>> >>>> This has been a huge bait and switch scam.... I feel like I have been >>>> consistently lied to about the future of Soft, there is even a video of a >>>> "product manager of the week" telling me the future of Softimage is * >>>> good* on the Autodesk site. Buyers remorse is one thing, but frankly >>>> no one has been honest with us about where all of this was headed, in fact >>>> I would say that I was deliberately lied to by the PR machine that is AD. >>>> The video of Daniel Tutino talking about the future of softimage is a prime >>>> example of AD misleading us. What's sad if you watch the video, he is >>>> acting like a really bad liar . ( I have the video downloaded just in case >>>> I need it to back up my case against AD.) >>>> >>>> First off I wish I would have NEVER bought a suite... I did not want a >>>> single dollar of mine going to support Maya, but apparently if you jumped >>>> on the suite bandwagon your money went toward a bazzilion Maya developers, >>>> even if you checked "softimage is my main interest" in the AD suite >>>> surveys. I wanted a Softimage branded suite for that very reason. Now >>>> from what I gather soft has less developers than my hand has fingers, and >>>> Maya has over a hundred?? WTF are all those developers working on, really? >>>> 100 devs working under the bad management of AD guys cant even compete with >>>> 15 devs working at an under funded Softimage run by Avid . >>>> >>>> I am also hugely disappointed in Mudbox... The only thing I ended up >>>> using in the whole suite is SOFTIMAGE.. Zbrush and Mari got my personal >>>> dollars because they delivered while AD promised. Now Luc Eric is all but >>>> saying Mudbox is going into Maya on Softimage forums.... Do the powers that >>>> be at AD still think putting everything into one app makes sense?? There is >>>> a reason why niche products do a better job at niche work :) >>>> >>>> I would be happy with if AD made an attempt at a next gen app, I would >>>> give that a shot....but I passed on Maya for a reason. >>>> >>>> I paid my support so Softimage could be developed further....not so AD >>>> could put a nail in its coffin. >>>> >>>> Feeling like I just got robbed... is there something we can do as a >>>> group to get our voices heard? Anyone know any good lawyers that will work >>>> for next years support money ;) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *Greg Punchatz* >>>> >>>> *Sr. Creative Director* >>>> Janimation >>>> 214.823.7760 >>>> www.janimation.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >>> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
