looks like your surface has more of a curve to it though, the more curved
it is the more issues like that will show up..

also, i doubt 3dsmax subdivides much different from softimage or maya for
that matter, maybe you could ask the guy to send you that piece of the
model as an obj so you can try it out.




On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com>wrote:

> Thanks James,****
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> I thought and used similar approach but yet, here we tried to reproduce a
> similar surface that guy does, and we can’t replicate the same smoothness*
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> As you see, the unsubdivided model has clearly visible shading issues, and
> the subdivided has too. I made a similar (almost identical) topology around
> the corners, and it drives us crazy…****
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> Cheers****
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> Szabolcs****
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> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *James De Colling
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:33 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Hard surface modeling question****
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> what kind of shading issues are you having? and that guys model is nice,
> but certainly not perfect. and entirely possible to do in softimage with
> standard tools.****
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> i model cars in softimage all the time with no hassles. just make sure you
> plan out your mesh / loops early on. make all panel cuts etc after one or
> two subdivisions down so you have the main surface already clean. also if
> your going realtime, use shading edges or hard edges...there is nothing
> else :)****
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> if you really want to do tricky cuts, sometimes what I do is dupe the
> mesh, locally subdivide it a few times, then project a fairly dense curve
> onto it via shrinkwrap.****
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> delete the subdivided mesh, (freeze the curve beforehand!) then use the
> curve as a snapguide for your cuts. im sure there are plenty of other ways,
> but this is what works well for me :)****
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> cheers,****
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> james,****
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> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hey folks. On CgSociety there is a talented guy modeling a MI-24
> helicopter. He’s using Max for the modeling, and he’s got some extremely
> powerful technique to model lids, insets, etc, without ANY SHADING ARTIFACT.
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> I tried several things that I am aware of, but in vain, I always had
> shading issue on my model, even on extreme subdivision.****
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> Shaded view:
> http://www.cantarel.de/external/WIP/MI-24/Mi-24_mdl_v239_view01.jpg****
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> Wireframe:
> http://www.cantarel.de/external/WIP/MI-24/Mi-24_mdl_v239_view02.jpg****
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> And the thread itself:
> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=7643118&postcount=275****
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> So any idea would help us a lot!****
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> Cheers****
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> Szabolcs****
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