Thank you for mentioning us and for the helpful comments. I'll make sure we
respond to the things raised in this thread - in particular scene assembly.
I just don't feel like pimping software today - I'll be back on top of
things tomorrow.


On 4 March 2014 15:34, Felix Geremus <felixgere...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Great post Andy! I'm probably biased, because I'm mainly working as a
> lighter. But after thinking about the future for the last couple of days, I
> came to the very same conclusion. Lighting and scene assembly is the
> biggest hole to fill. Houdini will be a great replacement for FX and with
> stuff like open VDB, alembic, partiio, etc it should become easier to move
> stuff in and out. Modeling can happen anywhere since a while.
> Rigging and animation isn't that easy. But animation isn't that technical
> and animators usually don't take long to switch. Rigging is more difficult.
> But Maya isn't that bad in rigging. And now there is Fabric. And I think
> for rigging it is already 90% of where it should be. People like Eric are
> already building stuff with it. And the advantage here is that rigging is a
> very modular and job specific process. With a few solvers and deformers
> you're already up and running, and everything else, you build on top as you
> need it. And that's the problem with a Fabric scene assembly application.
> You'd basically need to build a complete and highly complex application
> from scratch which covers all your needs. Otherwise you won't be able to
> work with it. And from what I know that's what keeps many people in smaller
> studios from using fabric in this area. It's just financially impossible to
> build such an application from scratch. I was really disappointed when I
> heard that the Fabric guys won't continue Stage for now (although I
> understand their reasons). And all the other efforts I know of (except for
> Steven's Arnold connection) are happening inside studios and most likely
> won't be shared.
> So now that Softimage will be gone, isn't there room or even need for
> collaboration here? Before everybody tries to build something themselves,
> shouldn't people try to bundle forces? And I'm not only talking about
> individuals here. I'm talking about small to medium size companies who
> couldn't afford to build something like this alone.
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-04 20:39 GMT+01:00 Juhani Karlsson <juhani.karls...@talvi.com>:
>
> Now I`m interested about this mailing list too - its full of Kings!
>> Is it going to stay? If not where should we go?
>>
>> Fabric definetly has bright future if you just keep on pushin - and Caron
>> that sounds really good : )
>>
>>
>> On 4 March 2014 21:35, Paul <p...@bustykelp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to be going Fabric too for sure.
>>>
>>> On 4 Mar 2014, at 19:17, Jonah Friedman <jon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> you can create arnold scenes with the kl language! this is a step toward
>>>> my own scene assembly tool. i am imagining something between softimage and
>>>> katana.
>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds exactly like a place I want to be. <3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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