"but maybe,with some of the element from the Softimage dev team,something good could be done and maybe we'll see some huge improvement on Maya and Max"
You know, it would be interesting to know the thoughts of those developers. How do they feel working for this company now? Especially ex XSI devs. I would still like to think the talented people that create this software do it because of passion, and that they truly care about their product. I haven't seen any other 3D app come close to the* thoughtfullness* that went into every aspect of XSI. And why I picked up within days of trying it out. Everything else compared to it was clunky mess. You felt it was created by artists, not accountants with no damn idea of ergonomics. To see that kind of talent which created such software, be assimilated and forgotten in the abysmal hole that is this company would be the saddest thing of this whole mess. So, yes, what are the developers thinking right now would be interesting to know.... On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Mihai, > >From one side its clear that they put one guy to explain a bit better the > transition situation and,of course,tale a bunch of shit because they sure > were expecting this > > If mr Vinneau want to still work for AD even if they are corporate > business who don't care at all about their customer I don't care that > much,is his decision,so if he get a check for all the shit I don't > care,because I strongly doubt that who pulled the plug on Softimage will > never go out public and say "I'm responsible for the shutdown of Softimage" > > What I would like to see however is one fo the AD CEO make a video for the > entire situation,and explain why greed is good (Wall Street reference :-p ) > > If we're talking about corporate aholes you would also keep your money > under the bed amd grow your own food > > Its business,Softimage never was the first choice for AD,we all know why > they bought it,and it was a matter of time > > What I meant abot the "big hit on subscription" was related to the fact > that,if they start to loose customers fast,maybe they'll start to do > something about the situation > Softimage wont be resurrected,but maybe,with some of the element from the > Softimage dev team,something good could be done and maybe we'll see some > huge improvement on Maya and Max > But they better do something quick,because everyone now realized what AD > is really about....money money money!!!! > Il 07/mar/2014 23:05 "Mihai Iliuta" <mihai...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Nicolas, I'm not sure I understand your position here. On one hand you're >> saying: >> "personal attacks to someone who's not responsable of the entire >> situation is just wrong" >> >> on the other: >> "but in this case I really hope that AD will receive a huge hit in >> subscriptions and l'ora of developers switch to other companies,because >> this is a really really bad decision" >> >> So on one hand, poor Mr Vienneau is not responsible, but you still wish >> that eventually enough people will leave that AD goes bankrupt and >> Mr.Vienneau looses his job. >> >> That's kind of more personal than my words :P And btw, I hope for the >> precise same thing as well. >> >> Ok. If Mr.Vienneau and his lies aren't really responsible than who is? >> Things just don't get decided by themselves, it's not a machine deciding >> this. >> >> And if I was in Mr Vinneaus shoes, I would feel ill to my stomach coming >> in to work each day, working for absolute scumbags. >> >> Enjoy that pay check Mr Vienneau. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Agree,personal attacks to someone who's not responsable of the entire >>> situation is just wrong >>> I can understand how pissed off you are (and here a lot of people are >>> pissed off) but right now this ia the situation,so better deal with it or >>> be angry for the next two years >>> >>> AD showed that they rather push their "old" softwares instead of >>> Softimage,and we all know how advanced this software is (not for >>> everything,but we all know it ) >>> >>> I do not want anyone to loose their job,but in this case I really hope >>> that AD will receive a huge hit in subscriptions and l'ora of developers >>> switch to other companies,because this is a really really bad decision >>> >>> I hoped that they would keep up Softimage at least as a VFX tool >>> (because of ICE) and push it for game development (which is widely used >>> inside big game developers ),but no,they "create" Maya Lite for >>> that....while Softimage (since release 7?) have already lots of tools for >>> game development.... >>> >>> Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time >>> Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 "Mihai Iliuta" <mihai...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >>> >>> You are listening?? >>>> >>>> Ok, listen to your own bullshit: >>>> >>>> "The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of >>>> Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false." >>>> >>>> "Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been >>>> working with the team on the future of the product with lots of key >>>> customers." >>>> >>>> "We understand people make their living from this software and that >>>> they make huge decisions about their projects and companies and we take >>>> that responsibility very seriously." >>>> >>>> "Again the door is open to contact us or challenge us. Please let >>>> everyone you know their products are safe." >>>> >>>> >>>> So today, we can safely say you are a lying piece of shit. You have no >>>> dignity, you have no character, and you have no word. I can't imagine any >>>> developer feeling any pride anymore working for you or this fucked up >>>> company. What you have done here and HOW you've done it, is irreparable and >>>> you and your company is from now on going downhill. You expect anybody to >>>> ever trust you or your company again? Is that worth anything for a >>>> business? It's worth everything. >>>> >>>> Nobody finds it in the least suspicious why SI was killed now? When the >>>> whole community around SI and the nr of independent developers working >>>> developing tools for it was at an all time high??? >>>> >>>> I don't know when you lost your balls and your word Mr. Vienneau, but >>>> "good luck" regaining both. >>>> >>>> Piece of shit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Perry Harovas >>>> <perryharo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> While Dan's heart is breaking (and so is mine), I still have (at >>>>> least) one nagging question: >>>>> >>>>> Clearly this has been under discussion for a while at Autodesk, so why >>>>> were the following comments >>>>> from September 5th of 2012 made: >>>>> >>>>> *"The rumor that the EOL of Softimage and 3DS Max is upon us is >>>>> totally false."* >>>>> >>>>> So, if I understand this correctly, what I get out of it is that when >>>>> Autodesk assures customers that their product is not on the chopping >>>>> block, >>>>> that statement is really only good for about a year and a half (less >>>>> if you take into account that this EOL must have been decided a while >>>>> back). >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't imbue anyone with much confidence. I am not a 3DS Max >>>>> user, but if I was, I think I'd be worried, and would take any Autodesk >>>>> assurances that there was no reason to worry >>>>> with a very large grain of salt. >>>>> >>>>> Can someone please, finally, address this? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Tim Crowson < >>>>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing >>>>>> terms. That's a big deal. >>>>>> -Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to know you are listening. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and pm >>>>>> teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software and >>>>>> answering a lot of calls but the mails you are writing are being passed >>>>>> back and forth as they are coming at a furious pace. Stay tuned for some >>>>>> answers and we plan on doing some private webinars under NDA for soft >>>>>> users >>>>>> to ask questions direct to us. Anyone interested in such a thing please >>>>>> write me a private mail at chris.vienn...@autodesk.com >>>>>> <mailto:chris.vienn...@autodesk.com> <chris.vienn...@autodesk.com> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Thx. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cv/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perry Harovas >>>>> 203-448-7206 >>>>> Animation and Visual Effects >>>>> >>>>> http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> >>>>> >>>>> -24 years experience >>>>> -Co-Author of "Mastering >>>>> Maya"<http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Maya-Complete-Perry-Harovas/dp/0782125212> >>>>> -Member of the Visual Effects Society >>>>> (VES)<http://www.visualeffectssociety.com/> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
