No Perry, sometimes, just sometimes you have to say enough is enough. Your reactions make me want to ask you: what would it take to finally make you say enough is enough? What would it take for you to say, I know this isn't the most practical thing to do, I know it isn't the most rational, but it's the right thing to do.
You allow yourselves to get fucked over and over again, and each time have the same reaction...."uh, lets try to make the best of it". On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Perry Harovas <perryharo...@gmail.com>wrote: > And to be clear, I agree with Mauricio too. > > I hate everything about this decision, but resorting to > swearing and name calling won't help the situation. > > Not to dismiss the anger that Mihai has, as I have it too, just saying > that being > less aggressive and insulting will more likely keep the discussion flowing. > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Kim <danielki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Agree with Mauricio >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Daniel Kim >> Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist >> http://www.danielkim3d.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maurício PC <goneba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Come on ... is not like he has the final say on things. Attacking him >>> personally won't solve a thing. >>> >>> Let's all act like grown ups. >>> >>> >>> I curse AD as a company ... but as a company it has employees and most >>> of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. >>> >>> >>> Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta <mihai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You are listening?? >>>> >>>> Ok, listen to your own bullshit: >>>> >>>> "The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of >>>> Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false." >>>> >>>> "Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been >>>> working with the team on the future of the product with lots of key >>>> customers." >>>> >>>> "We understand people make their living from this software and that >>>> they make huge decisions about their projects and companies and we take >>>> that responsibility very seriously." >>>> >>>> "Again the door is open to contact us or challenge us. Please let >>>> everyone you know their products are safe." >>>> >>>> >>>> So today, we can safely say you are a lying piece of shit. You have no >>>> dignity, you have no character, and you have no word. I can't imagine any >>>> developer feeling any pride anymore working for you or this fucked up >>>> company. What you have done here and HOW you've done it, is irreparable and >>>> you and your company is from now on going downhill. You expect anybody to >>>> ever trust you or your company again? Is that worth anything for a >>>> business? It's worth everything. >>>> >>>> Nobody finds it in the least suspicious why SI was killed now? When the >>>> whole community around SI and the nr of independent developers working >>>> developing tools for it was at an all time high??? >>>> >>>> I don't know when you lost your balls and your word Mr. Vienneau, but >>>> "good luck" regaining both. >>>> >>>> Piece of shit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Perry Harovas >>>> <perryharo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> While Dan's heart is breaking (and so is mine), I still have (at >>>>> least) one nagging question: >>>>> >>>>> Clearly this has been under discussion for a while at Autodesk, so why >>>>> were the following comments >>>>> from September 5th of 2012 made: >>>>> >>>>> *"The rumor that the EOL of Softimage and 3DS Max is upon us is >>>>> totally false."* >>>>> >>>>> So, if I understand this correctly, what I get out of it is that when >>>>> Autodesk assures customers that their product is not on the chopping >>>>> block, >>>>> that statement is really only good for about a year and a half (less >>>>> if you take into account that this EOL must have been decided a while >>>>> back). >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't imbue anyone with much confidence. I am not a 3DS Max >>>>> user, but if I was, I think I'd be worried, and would take any Autodesk >>>>> assurances that there was no reason to worry >>>>> with a very large grain of salt. >>>>> >>>>> Can someone please, finally, address this? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Tim Crowson < >>>>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing >>>>>> terms. That's a big deal. >>>>>> -Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to know you are listening. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and pm >>>>>> teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software and >>>>>> answering a lot of calls but the mails you are writing are being passed >>>>>> back and forth as they are coming at a furious pace. Stay tuned for some >>>>>> answers and we plan on doing some private webinars under NDA for soft >>>>>> users >>>>>> to ask questions direct to us. Anyone interested in such a thing please >>>>>> write me a private mail at chris.vienn...@autodesk.com >>>>>> <mailto:chris.vienn...@autodesk.com> <chris.vienn...@autodesk.com> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Thx. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cv/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perry Harovas >>>>> 203-448-7206 >>>>> Animation and Visual Effects >>>>> >>>>> http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> >>>>> >>>>> -24 years experience >>>>> -Co-Author of "Mastering >>>>> Maya"<http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Maya-Complete-Perry-Harovas/dp/0782125212> >>>>> -Member of the Visual Effects Society >>>>> (VES)<http://www.visualeffectssociety.com/> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> gonebadfx.com >>> - your source for bad fx >>> >> >> > > > -- > > > > > > Perry Harovas > 203-448-7206 > Animation and Visual Effects > > http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> > > -24 years experience > -Co-Author of "Mastering > Maya"<http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Maya-Complete-Perry-Harovas/dp/0782125212> > -Member of the Visual Effects Society > (VES)<http://www.visualeffectssociety.com/> >
