Hi everyone,


Things are very different than six years ago. In terms of competition for 
Autodesk, you can now argue in different industries there is Cinema 4D, Modo, 
Houdini, Zbrush, 3D coat, and even Unity (now has modeling tools) that can 
replace functionality that was once only available in 3dsmax, Maya, and 
Softimage. Things are more and more about playing nice with other tools in an 
ecosystem than one package to rule them all.



cv/





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From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Ben Barker 
[ben.bar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit

I'm not a lawyer either, but a few thoughts. When AD first bought Softimage 
there were talks of monopoly. Unfortunately for us, AD's biggest market is CAD, 
and they have several competitors in that arena. The government doesn't really 
parcel out the market in a way that favors a claim on monopoly for 3D artists. 
We are just a small bulb on a large tree.

Secondly, and this is a more serious problem, antitrust basically doesn't exist 
anymore in the US like it did in the days of Ma Bell. I talked with my partner, 
who is a larval lawyer, about this issue quite a bit. Every antitrust decision 
for the past 70 years has gnawed away at plaintiff power in antitrust cases and 
now there is essentially nothing left. Combined with the weak case we would 
already have from the first part, and I think this would be a really difficult 
row to hoe. That money and energy would probably be better spent re-educating 
and resource sharing among SI artists so they can move on, or perhaps fighting 
the subsidy/tariff issue.

I understand the anger, and it's heartbreaking to watch a superior product die 
in favor of Maya, but this wouldn't be a good way to retaliate IMO.




On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, skuby 
<sku...@gmail.com<mailto:sku...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There may be a case here for an Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit against 
Autodesk.  We would need to have a lawyer look at the details and I'm not the 
person to be able to do this, as I don't have the resources, connections or 
credibility to do so.

However, if successful, it is potentially possible that Autodesk could be 
forced to divest their Softimage assets, aka. they could be compelled by a 
court to sell Softimage to a competitor at it's fair market value.

Anyways, maybe someone out there in the aether can give the idea a shot, I 
would not know where to start outside of this initial suggestion.

The Federal Trade Commission along with the Department of Justice Antitrust 
Division jointly regulate and enforce Antitrust Law and Anti-Competitive 
Monopoly practices.

Anyways, this might work a little better than a petition to Autodesk or 
other-such cries for a change of heart, but the petition someone put out there 
to Autodesk might serve some use when presenting the idea to a Lawyer(s).  I 
think a lot of people and interested parties might just support crowdfunding 
for legal fees.  Good luck.

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