I think it will be very expensive but i would be happy to donate some.

2014-03-16 20:16 GMT+01:00 Tenshi Sama <tenshu...@gmail.com>:

> I'm not a lawyer, but i think with Autodesk history there's maybe a case
> here. The only way i think this could be accomplished is with all the
> community support; from studios to freelancers; important people; then,
> gather all the info from past years, videos, open letters, discussions,
> petitions, AD statements about Softimage future. I mean, everything!. And
> maybe we could have a case here.(maybe a weak one, but still a case)
>
> The problem i see with this is that people is not going to support
> something like this, because it requires investment and time. Human beings
> think first about their priorities, families and life itself(which is fine).
> But, if only we could give support to something like this, this kind of
> "monopoly" cases, will be over for decades, because company's will know for
> sure that Users will fight for their rights.
>
>  Don't misunderstand me, i hate the way Autode$k manage things, i would
> love to see the law force them to give the users what they promess year
> after year. What I do not like to see is how people bow to Autodesk and let
> them decide the path that everyone must follow.
>
> So... ,first we need a good representative, then a good lawyer, community
> support, and money.
>
> (sorry for my english)
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Chris Vienneau <
> chris.vienn...@autodesk.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Things are very different than six years ago. In terms of competition for
>> Autodesk, you can now argue in different industries there is Cinema 4D,
>> Modo, Houdini, Zbrush, 3D coat, and even Unity (now has modeling tools)
>> that can replace functionality that was once only available in 3dsmax,
>> Maya, and Softimage. Things are more and more about playing nice with other
>> tools in an ecosystem than one package to rule them all.
>>
>>
>>
>> cv/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Ben Barker [
>> ben.bar...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:38 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit
>>
>> I'm not a lawyer either, but a few thoughts. When AD first bought
>> Softimage there were talks of monopoly. Unfortunately for us, AD's biggest
>> market is CAD, and they have several competitors in that arena. The
>> government doesn't really parcel out the market in a way that favors a
>> claim on monopoly for 3D artists. We are just a small bulb on a large tree.
>>
>> Secondly, and this is a more serious problem, antitrust basically doesn't
>> exist anymore in the US like it did in the days of Ma Bell. I talked with
>> my partner, who is a larval lawyer, about this issue quite a bit. Every
>> antitrust decision for the past 70 years has gnawed away at plaintiff power
>> in antitrust cases and now there is essentially nothing left. Combined with
>> the weak case we would already have from the first part, and I think this
>> would be a really difficult row to hoe. That money and energy would
>> probably be better spent re-educating and resource sharing among SI artists
>> so they can move on, or perhaps fighting the subsidy/tariff issue.
>>
>> I understand the anger, and it's heartbreaking to watch a superior
>> product die in favor of Maya, but this wouldn't be a good way to retaliate
>> IMO.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, skuby <sku...@gmail.com<mailto:
>> sku...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> There may be a case here for an Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit against
>> Autodesk.  We would need to have a lawyer look at the details and I'm not
>> the person to be able to do this, as I don't have the resources,
>> connections or credibility to do so.
>>
>> However, if successful, it is potentially possible that Autodesk could be
>> forced to divest their Softimage assets, aka. they could be compelled by a
>> court to sell Softimage to a competitor at it's fair market value.
>>
>> Anyways, maybe someone out there in the aether can give the idea a shot,
>> I would not know where to start outside of this initial suggestion.
>>
>> The Federal Trade Commission along with the Department of Justice
>> Antitrust Division jointly regulate and enforce Antitrust Law and
>> Anti-Competitive Monopoly practices.
>>
>> Anyways, this might work a little better than a petition to Autodesk or
>> other-such cries for a change of heart, but the petition someone put out
>> there to Autodesk might serve some use when presenting the idea to a
>> Lawyer(s).  I think a lot of people and interested parties might just
>> support crowdfunding for legal fees.  Good luck.
>>
>>
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