Graham
Sorry , I just can't accept that. We have very experienced people here
who have used Maya a lot in production. I trust them implicitly. They
produce some of our best work. They are not raving newbies and have
shown repeatedly their willingness and ability to embrace new technology
and workflows. Its not only from my lack of experience that I have
formed my opinions. I'll say it again, Maya's interface and general
workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If you want to listen and you have
a genuine desire to improve Maya, this what we are saying.
Alastair
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On 19/03/2014 13:25, Graham Bell wrote:
I'm not being disingenuous at all, only that this is a common problem when
people jump from one software to another. I've seen this many times from users
where they start in another package and try to do the exact same workflow, only
to then become frustrated.
You can't jump to something else and expect it to work in the same way, you
simply can't. It's a recipe for disaster. And it's all too easy to label
something as being bad.
I'm not saying that Maya's workflow is superior either. There are things I like
and hate about Maya, but you could also say the same about Softimage and any
software package to be fair.
I think it was Luc-Eric who said in a previous post that apps have their set of
compromises, which we essentially accept.
Chris has mention on work starting to improve Maya's UI and I welcome that. And
if there some Softimage goodness in there, then I welcome that too.
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Hearsum
Sent: 19 March 2014 12:45
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: A confession
Graham
I think its disingenuous to ascribe the difficulties people have in doing
things in Maya only to the workflow being different. It was simple example I
gave and I would have hoped that it would have highlighted the Maya workflow as
being, dare I say, bad. I hope you don't mind the analogy here but the first
step to an alcoholics recovery is admitting the problem. Marc Stevens went as
far as he could in the webinar in conceding that there may be qualitative
differences in the Maya/Softimage interface workflow scenario and that it is
something that you are looking at
So yes, different, but lets not shy away from calling a spade a spade.
Alastair
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On 19/03/2014 11:31, Graham Bell wrote:
I've use both Maya and Softimage (XSI) for years, and the problem (imo) that
many will make is that they're two different applications. You simply can't go
into one and expect it to work in the same way to something else. This is no
different to when jumping to Modo, Houdini, or Max.
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Subject: Re: A confession
You shouldn't rely too much on the outliners, they are nowhere near what SI
Explorer is. But if you must, and want to open multiple outliners ala
Softimage, you can do it with something like this:
// MEL
//-------------------------------------
window -t "Outliner" -wh 200 500;
frameLayout -labelVisible false;
string $panel = `outlinerPanel`;
showWindow;
//-------------------------------------
Yeah, you have to script a lot in Maya. Even for stupid things like this.
Knowing basic scripting in SI is very useful, but in Maya, not knowing basic
scripting may be critical.
Martin
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ivan Vasiljevic
<klebed...@gmail.com<mailto:klebed...@gmail.com><mailto:klebed...@gmail.com><mailto:klebed...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
You should go with something more simpler for start:
Try opening few outliners as you would often have few explorer opened in SI.
